Posted on 12/19/2005 6:23:54 AM PST by NYer
Tell me, Hermann, which day do you keep the fourth commandment on?
I saw this in my son's church yesterday.
http://www.celebrationchurchtx.com/videos/no-service-on-christmas-web.wmv
You don't believe that man is judged on his works? Here's a hint, Catholics tend to use language very precisely. Hermann did not put in the phrase "of our own" in as a lark, nor did he then follow it with a reference to Pelgaianism.
Works we do without faith and without God's grace can never amount to anything except "filthy rags."
Works done with faith and in cooperation with God's grace can be, literally, soul-changing.
SD
LOL - It can't be said enough. I have huge problems with the direction that modern religion has taken - especially Catholicism, but it's nice to know that a lot of people still get it when it comes to salvation.
No need to give hints: we all get it.
Just to be clear, are you saying that works are required for salvation?
Generally speaking, yes. You might have an epiphany and then get hit by a bus or you might be an infant or mentally retarded, but in general terms one needs to have a living faith in order to obtain eternal life. And, as we all know, faith without works is dead. Dead. Not alive. Dead.
SD
I just sent an email bashing this moron.
It is extremely sad that the modern church somehow decides that the Ten Commandments don't matter, that since it is Christmas, we don't need to keep the Sabbath Day and make it holy.
Instead, we are to sit at home and open presents!
No worship of the King whose birth we celebrate.
Just sick.
I hate the modern American church. The sad thing is, thte evangelicals are often just as bad as the liberals.
While I don't agree with you on most things, I am glad the Catholic churches I know will be open on Sunday.
I find it sickening that some Protestants believe crap like this:
"Nobody's orthodoxy stands or falls on having a Sunday service."
Bull$*$*. Scripture mandates SUNDAY, not Saturday, not Friday, not Thursday.
SUNDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is an essential issue, and I am pissed off.
I'll be at the 8:00 service with my family, and will happily host anyone who wishes to join us.
Sunday is the established day of worship.
The Westminster Confession makes this clear, sir.
Which day of the week is The Sabbath? The first or the seventh?
BTW I believe that every single one of these churches has a service on Saturday after the Sun goes down. Scripturally speaking that makes it Sunday, doesn't it? Or did scripture suddenly change when we started days at midnight rather than sundown?
I hate the modern American church.
So move to Europe. You'd just love the European churches. Plenty of room to spread your legs out.
The schedule is Sunday.
PERIOD.
In my area, it is the liberal United Churches (4 of the 5 in my area) that are closing on Christmas Day (and New Year's Day). Most of the others are at least having one service on those days...
BTW, this is up in Canada where such is taking place.
Our church will hold six Christmas eve services, but will not have a Christmas day service...so? If I wanted to go to church I would find one that was open or just pray. Most people I know do not go to church on Christmas day anyway.
Best bet: find one that is open, and stay there permanently. Show them that you aren't happy with the decision.
So the Westminster Confession has trumped Exodus Chapter 20, huh? Oh well if it's a choice between the words of God written in stone or the Westminster Confession, then the Westminster Confession wins every time, eh?
The NT time of worship was changed to Sunday. However, the Ten Commandments still abide, and we are to keep the Sabbath Day holy, Sunday for us.
Great witness there, RW.
Again, when exactly, from a scriptural standpoint, does Sunday start?
I don't talk to heretics.
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