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FOX News: Religion in America: Church and State now on! Fighting for Religious Freedom!
FOX News | December 18, 2005

Posted on 12/18/2005 7:09:25 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Looks like it could be interesting.


TOPICS: Announcements; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aclj; brithume; christianheritage; foxnews; moralabsolutes; religiousfreedom
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To: netmilsmom

I'm glad. Anyone with a good spouse and good children has it made in my book.


61 posted on 12/18/2005 8:05:04 PM PST by moog
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To: Congressman Billybob

Did you ever run across that one woman who they keep going to for sound bites? The one who prefers the "tyranny of the minority" model, where if one person feels "uncomfortable" then everybody else can go jump in a lake? She claims that she clerked for O'Connor. Maybe O'Connor's rapid decline in her later years is in part because she used poor judgment in hiring athiest scumbags like this woman as clerks.


62 posted on 12/18/2005 8:05:16 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Jo Nuvark
[...Bull Pucky, Holy Cats...] "Wowy Zowy", "Beeber Stuned", "Fantabulous", "Shaka"... OK... somebody needs to start a thread. HOLY COW! I'd say you are right. Some other phrases I use--Shazbot, Inforesting (something that I can learn from that is interesting), What the heck?, Uh-oh, and so on.
63 posted on 12/18/2005 8:07:17 PM PST by moog
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To: Jo Nuvark

"Seems to me a lot of "nobody's" are using petty religious
issues to find their 15 minutes of fame. Petty. Really petty!"

Michael Newdow is at the top of my list for acting that way. A 5 ton monument though could be argued as doing that too though.


64 posted on 12/18/2005 8:12:35 PM PST by moog
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To: moog

I agree with you - and I wasn't advocating having your pastor recommend a candidate. But, the candidate has positions on various policy issues. Jesus speaks to each of those areas...do you know what the bible teaches about economics, or sociology? Does tbe bible have anything to say about politics, or law? It does...and candidates who are worthy of my vote should know what those principles are. But I can't assess their positions if I don't know what the Bible teaches in each of those areas, and others.


65 posted on 12/18/2005 8:13:13 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America)
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To: moog

[...A 5 ton monument could be argued as doing that too...]

If by five ton monument, you mean Michael Moore,
I understand. Otherwise I need more clarity.


66 posted on 12/18/2005 8:19:07 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: LiteKeeper

I agree with you - and I wasn't advocating having your pastor recommend a candidate. But, the candidate has positions on various policy issues. Jesus speaks to each of those areas...do you know what the bible teaches about economics, or sociology? Does tbe bible have anything to say about politics, or law? It does...and candidates who are worthy of my vote should know what those principles are. But I can't assess their positions if I don't know what the Bible teaches in each of those areas, and others.

Indeed, though various interpretations get used sometimes. Like I said before, even on here, the religion threads get downright nasty with disagreements over various interpretations. Who we vote for is often determined by our set of values (especially religious ones). While I most often vote for the party that starts with an R, if the R guy is a scumbag, then I will not vote for him (sometimes neither). And yes, sometimes it is the lesser of two evils. Luckily our munincipal elections here had candidates with strong morals who really try to serve with integrity. I can't say the same about many on the State level, though there are a few good eggs out there. Unfortunately, those are the guys that are increasingly being targeted by the special interests and others.

67 posted on 12/18/2005 8:21:42 PM PST by moog
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To: Jo Nuvark

Justice Black, former member of the KKK, and undoubtedly anti-Catholic.


68 posted on 12/18/2005 8:22:21 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Jo Nuvark
If by five ton monument, you mean Michael Moore, I understand. Otherwise I need more clarity.

Wrong Moore, though he is a five ton monument. I do believe that those seeking to remove Ten Commandment monuments that have been there for a long time as part of the display are just dumb to put it in my own terms.

69 posted on 12/18/2005 8:23:27 PM PST by moog
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To: Jim Robinson

Theory: Moonbat Socials

Is the flood of MSM/Leftist pressure especially noticeable around this time of year? The holidays offer a great time to gather around family and friends. Social gatherings also afford a great opportunity to snuggle up with like-minded comrades; if you are invited to all the "really important" cocktail parties.

While the left is generally fractured, self-absorbed and disorganized, Christmas 2005 can be remembered for its exceptionally strong anti-Bush, anti-religion, anti-war rhetoric on paper and on the airwaves.

Very public disagreements amongst the left, plus Bush climbing in the polls have to be the main focus for these Moonbat Socials. What better time to organize and plan offensive strategies while attending a gathering for a religious season that has no significance to the Moonbats in the first place?

News Directors, Producers, Publishers, Lawyers, Journalists, Academics, and on-air Talent are likely gathering under the banner of year-end (never called Christmas) cocktail parties. The result? A sort of collective rah-rah session with anti-Bush, anti-religion, anti-War ideas being tossed around as often as the phrase "did you see that dress she was wearing?"

Take heart FReepers, Moonbat Socials are a season thing; a product of circumstance. While many of us look to family and close friends around the Holidays, those with little regard for either are just a little more coordinated than usual.

Merry Christmas FReepers


70 posted on 12/18/2005 8:24:07 PM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: khnyny

Until after 1960, there was a Protestant Establishment. Thereafter, the Establishment beccame more and more secular in its views. The decline of the Episcopal Church in the United States is one sign of the transformation of the elites, but it was a process that had begun a hundred years before, after the Civil War and with the ascendency of social darwinism.


71 posted on 12/18/2005 8:27:38 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS
I'm going to propose that the KKK were the original mid century moonbats. They have so much in common with the O'Hare, Sheehan, Sharpton, Jackson, Newdow and Churchill types. They use extreme, anti-social, anarchist rhetoric for media attention. As children these people got what they wanted by pulling tantrums.
72 posted on 12/18/2005 8:32:56 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: RobbyS

Bump!


73 posted on 12/18/2005 8:36:21 PM PST by khnyny (Merry Christmas)
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To: Jo Nuvark
As children these people got what they wanted by pulling tantrums. That's commonplace now--as adults.
74 posted on 12/18/2005 8:36:59 PM PST by moog
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To: add925

[...Moonbat Socials...]

A great opportunity to apply "WON BY ONE" strategy.
It's amazing how cowardly liberals are when confronted
individually. Tawanda!!!


75 posted on 12/18/2005 8:38:01 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: metmom
There are occasions I wish we had it but it's not often enough to justify the expense.

I've never had it ever--growing up and now. I had a guy call up offering cable service. I said that with the amount of TV I watched per week that I would be paying about $6 an hour and that was too much. He tried other tactics, but the expense amount still stood.

Give me ESPN and an old-time cartoon station for about $8 a month and I might consider it--maybe one of the learning channels too.

76 posted on 12/18/2005 8:41:22 PM PST by moog
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To: Lancey Howard
Your point is well taken. The clerks are always young people, full of p*ss and vinegar, fresh out of academia, ready to change the world. It logically follows that when the Justices grow older and more feeble, the influence of the clerks over the Justice's output necessarily grows.

Justice Thurgood Marshall was reduced to watching sitcoms in his chambers, before he retired. Justice Douglas was drooling, before he retired. The last opinions to come from the chambers of both of them, were entirely clerk-generated.

The best source to understand how the Court actually functions behind its high marble walls, read The Brethren. Then, plug into that process the logical result as Justices grow old and feeble. Prior to the death of Chief Justice Rehnquist, the Court was the most old and feeble in its history.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: " 'Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics' in Military Recruitment"

77 posted on 12/18/2005 8:41:27 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Do you think Fitzpatrick resembled Captain Queeg, coming apart on the witness stand?)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Tawanda!!!

Is that what Michael Moore says when he's doing a gymnastics vault?


78 posted on 12/18/2005 8:42:22 PM PST by moog
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To: Congressman Billybob

young people, full of p*ss and vinegar

The former Justic White actually led the NFL in rushing one year I think.


79 posted on 12/18/2005 8:43:54 PM PST by moog
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To: Jo Nuvark
A great opportunity to apply "WON BY ONE" strategy. It's amazing how cowardly liberals are when confronted individually.

Ever wonder why they nest on the coasts? The fly-over states usually scare the cr*p out of them.

New reality show idea..Moonbat Survivor...Turn them loose with 50 bucks in their pocket on a rural midwestern road.

80 posted on 12/18/2005 8:44:48 PM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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