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Socialist Candidate Leads Bolivia Voting
Associated Press ^ | 19 December, 2005 | FIONA SMITH

Posted on 12/18/2005 4:09:33 PM PST by Alter Kaker

COCHABAMBA, Bolivia - Bolivia's Socialist presidential candidate Evo Morales, who has promised to become Washington's "nightmare," held an unexpectedly strong lead over his conservative rival in Sunday's election, according to two independent exit polls.

The wide margin means Morales, a coca farmer who has said he will end a U.S.-backed anti-drug campaign aimed at eradicating the crop used to make cocaine, will likely be declared president in January.

"If (the U.S.) wants relations, welcome," Morales said after voting, holding a news conference where piles of coca leaves were spread atop a Bolivian flag. "But no to a relationship of submission."

Morales had 45 percent of the vote and former President Jorge Quiroga had 33 percent in an Equipso Mori poll. A second poll by the private Ipsos Captura organization showed Morales with a slightly narrower lead of 44.5 percent to 34 percent for Quiroga. Minor candidates were getting the rest.

If Morales fails to win more than 50 percent of the popular vote, Bolivia's newly elected congress must decide the presidency — a parliamentary process that would involve some coalition building and likely be a moderating influence on Morales.

Officials reported that voting went peacefully as the polls closed. Official returns were expected to arrive hours later.

There were some accusations of voters being fraudulently turned away at polls in Santa Cruz and Cochabamba, but national electoral court spokesman Salvador Romero said there had been no confirmed irregularities, and that the people turned away apparently had not voted in last year's municipal elections, as required by law.

The winner starts a five-year term on Jan. 22 as Bolivia's fourth president since August 2002.

Morales, 46, has promised to reverse years of sometimes violent U.S.-backed efforts to eradicate coca fields. Bolivia is the world's third-largest grower of coca, a plant that has traditional, legal uses among the country's Indians but also is used to make cocaine.

At his news conference, Morales said he wanted "bilateral relations so we can look for solutions and accords."

The Aymara Indian street activist also referred to his status as a symbol for many of Bolivia's long-downtrodden Indians, a majority in this country of 8.5 million people.

"I am the candidate of those despised in Bolivian history, the candidate of the most disdained, discriminated against," he said after working through a crowd of admirers — some of whom rushed forward to kiss him — before voting at a decrepit basketball court in the village school.

He compared the struggle of his Movement Toward Socialism party to those of Indian leaders who fought Spanish conquerers, as well as to the independence hero Simon Bolivar and socialist icon Che Guevara.

Voting later in the capital of La Paz, Quiroga, 45, said he would respect the decision of lawmakers and hoped that the congressional process would not lead to the sort of crippling street protests Morales had led in the past.

Without mentioning Morales by name, Quiroga added: "What one has to avoid is that one of the sides tries to air its differences through aggression, through sticks and stones. That is not the way we do things. We advance with proposals, with ideas and programs."

Quiroga served as president from 2001 to 2002 after then-President Hugo Banzer fell ill. He has said he would sell Bolivia's vast natural gas reserves at higher prices and improve infrastructure, education and health care.

In the event of a second round, the newly elected congress will choose the president between the top two vote-getters in mid-January.

In the five presidential elections since 1985, congress has passed over the first place candidate twice. Parties usually bargain to get the votes needed to win — a factor that could make a kingmaker of the centrist third-place candidate, Samuel Doria Medina. He has said he would support the first-place candidate if he wins by at least 5 percentage points.

Hundreds of international monitors, including a group from the Organization of American States, made it one of the mostly closely watched elections in the country's history, and Sunday's voting was conducted under heavy police guard.

Bolivians also were deciding their vice president, all 27 Senate seats, 130 House seats and all nine governorships.

Many Indians blame the country's free-market policies for enriching white elite at the expense of the majority poor.

Morales counts Cuba's Fidel Castro and Venezuela's Hugo Chavez among his friends, along with leftists in Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay who have gained power at the ballot box this decade.

The winner will succeed caretaker President Eduardo Rodriguez, a Supreme Court justice appointed by Congress on June 8, two days after street protests ended the 18-month administration of Carlos Mesa.

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Associated Press Writer Bill Cormier in La Paz contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boliva; evomorales; latinamerica; socialists; southamerica
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

"I may be the only Freeper to go to jail in Bolivia."

Is that you did or you will? If you did, I have to know the story.


81 posted on 12/18/2005 8:03:18 PM PST by ndt
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

On the other hand if it is for something your planning I'd rather not know the details before hand. Just safer that way.


82 posted on 12/18/2005 8:07:58 PM PST by ndt
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To: Alter Kaker
Many Indians blame the country's free-market policies for enriching white elite at the expense of the majority poor.

Now every Bolivian will be equally poor.

Well, at least, everyone except for the members of the politburo.

83 posted on 12/18/2005 8:12:04 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: Stentor
"Figure of speech dude."

Well we have already had calls for everything from withdrawing financial support and sanctions (justifiable) to napalming dirt poor villages (asinine) so quarantining actually seemed rather moderate.

"You get out so much you're going native?"

I live in South America not in Bolivia though, kinda unavoidable to some degree.
84 posted on 12/18/2005 8:14:16 PM PST by ndt
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
I may be the only Freeper to go to jail in Bolivia.

My father (a Russian/Polish Jew on a business trip) was arrested in Bolivia in the 1930s on suspicion of spying for Paraguay in the Chaco war. Amazingly, he was innocent... and they released him. But they threatened to conscript him into the Bolivian army as punishment. That would have changed my life somewhat.

What's your story?

85 posted on 12/18/2005 8:18:36 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: B Knotts
"Now every Bolivian will be equally poor."

In Bolivia's case, there is not a lot of leveling to do. It's the poorest country in South America with a $2,600 GDP per capita (2004)
86 posted on 12/18/2005 8:19:01 PM PST by ndt
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To: Alter Kaker
"My father (a Russian/Polish Jew on a business trip) was arrested in Bolivia..."

Damn, what a choice. I'm not sure which would be worse Bolivian prison or the Bolivian Army. Have they ever won anything they have been involved in? Southern Peru, used to be Bolivia, northern Chile used to be Bolivia and the Chaco Boreal... well nobody really knew whose it was, but Bolivia lost that too.
87 posted on 12/18/2005 8:26:09 PM PST by ndt
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To: ndt
I had an oil exploration crew working out of a small town on the Bene (sp) river, it was at the end of a paved road a long way from Coach.
The crew had about 3,000 people ( about 50 were ex pats ) with 6 helicopters.
The Bolivian Navy (yes this landlocked nation has a navy )
had about 50 people with only a few dugouts with small outboards.
The Navy lieutenant, who was a dope head, had beaten up a few of the Bolivian natives who worked for us when he was doped up.
They had a fiesta and all of our people and the town turned out for the celebration.
Well even though I was on full expenses, I could not buy a drink for myself or anyone and I could not drink all of the ones bought for me.
One of my workers was from Canada and we left the celebration.
Well this doped up lieutenant called out his entire force to put me and the Canadian in jail.
It could have gotten ugly as we had many people on the crew who did not want us put in jail.
The jail was a storage area for 55 gal. drums between thatched huts.
I started laughing at the jail and the Canadian was scared to death, he said "Frank, Frank quit laughing, they are going to shoot us".
The dope head passed out and his Sergeant let us out.
The crew had already called his higher officers and complained about his treatment of our Bolivian workers and this was the last straw, they shipped him out and the Sergeant was put in control of this little town.
We never had any problems after that.
88 posted on 12/18/2005 8:34:30 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Giving power and money to Congress is like giving liquor and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J. O'Rour)
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To: Alter Kaker

see my post 88


89 posted on 12/18/2005 8:35:44 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Giving power and money to Congress is like giving liquor and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J. O'Rour)
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To: ndt; kstewskis; eleni121

Ok

Let me be clear. I do not advocate napalming "dirt poor villages", nor did I.

I am sick of you, and others who disagree with me somehow, taking liberties with my words and meanings. The word "asinine" is certainly more applicable to such unfounded nonsense. Particularly since I have made myself quite clear.

Twist or misuse my words again and I may simply report it as abuse.

Please be damn sure of what you speak. I have been tempted to openly question your intelligence, or to dismiss you as a troll, but I chose to do neither.

Just because we disagree does not make either of us trolls, nor stupid.

I think napalming a few uninhabited large coca fields which could be proven part of a growing/processing/wholesaling distribution chain of cocaine trafficking would send a clear message. Not the villages, the coca fields.

Destroying a few processing plants where raw coca is converted to powder cocaine ought to also be on the radar for someone. As well as arresting any and all dealers that can be apprehended, and even clamping down on users.

It is a problem that affects many, so the approach to interdicting this threat should also be manifold.

A.A.C.


90 posted on 12/18/2005 8:37:32 PM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: AmericanArchConservative; kstewskis; eleni121
"Let me be clear...."

I missed your earlier clarification and for that I apologize.

"I am sick of you, and others"

Well in this case it was just me, no conspiracy, I have no idea who the other are and have not read all those related threads.

"Please be damn sure of what you speak. I have been tempted to openly question your intelligence, or to dismiss you as a troll, but I chose to do neither."

Feel free I can defend it just fine.

"Just because we disagree does not make either of us trolls, nor stupid. "

Never claimed you were, just the idea which I though you espoused, a misunderstanding on my part.

"I think napalming a few uninhabited large coca fields which could be proved part of a growing/processing/wholesaling distribution chain of cocaine trafficking would send a clear message. Not the villages, the coca fields."

I still disagree. Without the approval of the government of Bolivia, this would be an act of war. Can you imagine France fire bombing a Monsanto field in the U.S. because they do not want our G.M. foods?

It's time to take on the responsibility of cutting demand here at home rather than relying on military action abroad.
91 posted on 12/18/2005 8:53:41 PM PST by ndt
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To: ndt

Fair enough.

A.A.C.


92 posted on 12/18/2005 8:58:15 PM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
I may be the only Freeper to go to jail in Bolivia.

Not true, technically. When I was in Bolivia I visited San Pedro prison (probably the only functioning prison in the world that's also a tourist trap) and chatted up a bunch of inmates. What happened to you?

93 posted on 12/18/2005 10:08:45 PM PST by ChicagoHebrew (Hell exists, it is real. It's a quiet green meadow populated entirely by Arab goat herders.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Most Bolivianos have no interest in cocaine. They consume a ton of coca right now, which is dirt cheap. Cocaine is dirt cheap in Bolivia too. It's illegal, but easy available at $5 a gramme.


94 posted on 12/18/2005 10:10:54 PM PST by ChicagoHebrew (Hell exists, it is real. It's a quiet green meadow populated entirely by Arab goat herders.)
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To: ChicagoHebrew

see my reply 88


95 posted on 12/18/2005 11:36:49 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Giving power and money to Congress is like giving liquor and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J. O'Rour)
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To: Alter Kaker
America will long for the "good ole days" when J. Edgar would order these thugs to wake up with Columbian necktie. Send a couple of guys down and make it a dope deal gone bad, case closed. Have a new vote.

What the hell has happened to my country?

96 posted on 12/19/2005 12:03:02 AM PST by chuckles
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To: All

Note: The following text is a quote:
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http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/pa/pa_2529.html

PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT

U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Office of the Spokesman
This information is current as of today, Mon Dec 19 2005 03:05:57 GMT-0800.

Bolivia

December 13, 2005


This Public Announcement is being issued to inform U.S. Citizens traveling to and residing in Bolivia of national elections scheduled for December 18, 2005, and to alert Americans to the possibility of roadblocks, protests and demonstrations surrounding the event. This Public Announcement expires on February 20, 2006.

As noted in the Consular Information Sheet for Bolivia, protests, strikes and other civic actions can occur at any time and disrupt transportation on a local and national level. This is particularly true before, during and after elections or other changes in government. While protest actions generally begin peacefully, they have the potential to become violent. The police have used tear gas to break up protests. In addition to rallies and street demonstrations, protesters sometimes block roads; they sometimes react with force when travelers attempt to pass through or go around roadblocks and occasionally have used the threat of explosives to press their point.

Roadblocks and demonstrations in June 2005 led to the closure of the La Paz airport, resulting in cancellation and diversion of flights and other inconveniences to travelers. U.S. citizens planning travel to or from Bolivia during this timeframe should take into consideration the possibility of disruptions to air service in and out of La Paz and other airports. Americans should monitor Bolivian media reports for updates. The Embassy strongly recommends that U.S. citizens avoid areas where roadblocks or public demonstrations are occurring or planned, including political rallies, given press reports of violence at some rallies in various parts of Bolivia.

U.S. citizens who find themselves in a roadblock should not attempt to “run” the roadblock, as this may aggravate the situation and lead to physical harm. Taking alternative, safe routes or returning to where the travel started may be the safest courses of action under these circumstances. U.S. citizens embarking on road trips should monitor news reports and may contact the American Citizen Services Unit of the U.S. Embassy in La Paz at (591)(2)(216-8297 or the U.S. consular agencies in Cochabamba at (591)(4)425-6714 and/or Santa Cruz at (591) (3) 351-3477 for updates. Given that roadblocks may occur without warning and have stranded travelers for several days, travelers should take extra food and water. The U.S. Embassy also advises its employees to maintain at least one week’s supply of drinking water and canned food in case roadblocks affect supplies, as occurred in June 2005. For more information on emergency preparedness, please consult the Federal Emergency Management Authority (FEMA) Web site at http://www.fema.gov/. That Web site includes a Spanish language version.

Americans living or traveling in Bolivia are encouraged to register and update their contact information at the U.S. Embassy in La Paz and/or the U.S. consular agencies in Cochabamba and Santa Cruz, Bolivia. Registration may be done online and in advance of travel. Information on registering may be found at the Department of State's Consular Affairs website: https://travelregistration.state.gov/.

U.S. citizens should consult the Consular Information Sheet for Bolivia and the latest Worldwide Caution Public Announcement at the Department's Internet site at http://travel.state.gov/. Updated information on travel and security in Bolivia may also be obtained from the Department of State by calling 1-888-407-4747 within the United States or by calling 1-202-501-4444 outside the United States.


97 posted on 12/19/2005 3:05:32 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Calpernia; StillProud2BeFree; Velveeta; backhoe; All

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/551

Weblog
"More Slave-Holding Immigrants in the West"
December 16, 2005


98 posted on 12/19/2005 3:08:19 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy

It is utterly amazing the extent of slavery world wide and it isn't even a blip on the news.

Did you see Mrs. Cheney's speech in Iraq? She made a point of stating 'no slaves' in comparing the voter block of the New Iraq to first elections in the USA.


99 posted on 12/19/2005 6:08:05 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: ndt
If the bottle of Jack could be condensed down to one hit dope for the same price...
That's my point.
100 posted on 12/19/2005 6:15:58 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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