DEAD MAN WALKING!
Posted on 12/17/2005 10:08:23 PM PST by Pikamax
Has the 9/11 Commission come out on the recent vote to renew the Patriot Act? They seem to always be harping about their advice not being taken, but I haven't heard a peep out of them on this issue (or maybe I missed it). I'd like to know their stance.
"Sure sounds illegal to me. Whether it is or not may be a matter for lawyers. I'm listening.."
Well- since it sounds illegal, it must be then, huh? Wow, the NYT wrote an article that makes it look like the President did something wrong- imagine that????????
The burden of proof is on you and the NY Times- you guys are the accusers. So prove it.... I'm listening.......
I didn't say that. AND I said "I'm listening" - EI more info encouraged.
As for burden of proof, I'm not claiming anything. I merely said it sounded illegal and welcomed feedback. Apparently your "feelings" precluded your capacity to be rational.
Thanks for the reminder to read that. I requested it from the library moments ago. Hard to believe that in the entire state of Wisconsin, there are only TWO copies in circulation. (Democratic Governor, Lt. Governor, AG, Senator Feingold, CongressLesbian Baldwin, et al...)
Guess what my local library will be getting as a Christmas Gift this year? LOL! :)
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They can dish it out, but they can't take it...LOL
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Just wait 'til Hakmed pops a bomb belt in their shiny new lobby. They will be full of indignant rage then; won't they?
hehe....yeppers, then they will be calling for Bush's head for not stopping the attack!
Even the New York Communist Times admits that Bush notified the Congressional members (in both parties) who are cleared to know about this surveilance and are required by law to know. If it were illegal why didn't the Senators disallow or try to stop it? I seriously doubt that spying on "citizens" suspected of being (or assisting) international terrorists is illegal. Our survival necessitates this.
We are at WAR; look at what the government did to the Japanese citizens in WWII. And I'd wager that interning them saved many an American life because a lot of them were spies and subversives.
"But we have learned the hard way that Mr. Bush's team cannot be trusted to find the boundaries of the law, much less respect them."
To our great dismay, we have learned the hard way, and repetitively, that the the MSM, and in particular, the NYTimes, cannot be trusted to find the boundaries of patriotism, fairness, objectivity, and honesty, not to mention good taste.
Nevermind that there has not been a single terrorist attack, even minor, in this country since 9/11/01, so this program is working to some degree. Similarly, the NSA is not "spying" on every American, just the ones with contacts to known terrorists abroad.
This morning, it took Chris Wallace several repeated attempts to get Harry Reid to admit that he had been advised of this by the President and/or his staff. Even then, he evaded the question, which means that although they managed to keep their traps shut prior to the NYTimes sedition edition, once the cat was out of the bag, they felt freed of their need for confidentiality, and threw the security of the USA under the bus just to score political points.
Cesspools and Democrats are similar in so many ways, but the cesspools are starting to smell better. I guess they are simply less full of s**t. And perform a service to America, which the Dems can no longer claim to do.
I wish I could laugh about it this time. But this time it affected legislation that protected our safety and our lives. This time it's not just trying to unseat a sitting President in a time of war. This time it's outright and blatant aiding and abetting our enemes by hampering our abilities to detect them in their efforts to DESTROY America and Americans.
This time it's not funny at all. It's deadly serious.
"LOL! The NY Slimes is always good for a predictable chuckle."
If it was so critical, why did the Times sit on it for a year?
I'm guessing flop.
Thanks for posting and commenting on 50 USC 1802, which makes it quite clear that nothing illegal was done, and in fact that they are operting precisely within the letter of the law.
I've been posting 50 USC 1802 on FR since yeaterday afternoon. I wonder how long it'll be before the MSM realizes it's being taken for a ride.
And here's where the WH once again falls way short in delivering its message.
Condi should have been prepped to say "We are following the legal guidance of 50 U.S. Code 1802, which provides for surveillance of terrorist organizations and persons in exactly this manner. Your viewers can read that statute on the Internet, and it's very clear that we have followed the law."
Well, don't bother your silly little head by reading post #2, which is 50 USC 1802 and authorizes precisely the sort of surveillance that the Rats and NYT are calling "illegal", which it flatly is not.
Well, you can read #2 in this thread, which is 50 USC 1802 and clearly lays it all out. Nothing illegal was done.
Did they run a correction *last week* after they printed an entirely fabricated story about "phoney ballots at the border"?
And we are suppose to trust the NYT ????
Sorry ... they have real history
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