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White House 'never told' of WMD doubts (Powell opens up!)
Herald Sun ^ | 18 December 2005

Posted on 12/17/2005 6:14:13 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

THE US administration was never told of doubts about the secret intelligence used to justify war with Iraq, former secretary of state Colin Powell told the BBC in an interview to be broadcast on Sunday night.

Mr Powell, who argued the case for military action against Saddam Hussein in the UN in 2003, told BBC News 24 television he was "deeply disappointed in what the intelligence community had presented to me and to the rest of us."

"What really upset me more than anything else was that there were people in the intelligence community that had doubts about some of this sourcing, but those doubts never surfaced to us," he said.

Mr Powell's comments follow US President George W. Bush's acceptance earlier this week of responsibility for going to war on intelligence, much of which "turned out to be wrong".

US involvement in Iraq since the March 2003 invasion has led to the loss of 2,140 of its troops and badly hit the Republican president's popularity.

The opposition Democrats have increased calls for a timetable for a military withdrawal.

But ahead of this week's parliamentary elections in Iraq, President Bush insisted he was still right to order the invasion and argued a hurried withdrawal would be "a recipe for disaster".

The British government, Washington's key allies in the invasion, has similarly refused to give a withdrawal date for its 8,000 or so troops in Iraq's four southern states, although has said it could happen next year.

For his part, Mr Powell considered the US military could not be deployed in Iraq at its current strength for years to come, raising the possibility of withdrawal from next year.

But he told the BBC that "essentially just to walk away, to say that we're taking all of our troops out as fast as we can, would be a tragic mistake". A US presence would be required in Iraq for "years", he added.

"We've invested a great deal in this country, and the Iraqi people deserve democracy and the freedom that they were promised when we got rid of Saddam Hussein and we have to stay with them... until they decide that they can get it now on their own, they don't need us any longer," he added.

"And even then, I suspect, there will be a continuing relationship and presence of some significance for some years to come."

In the interview, Mr Powell confirmed that White House "hawks" US Vice-President Dick Cheney and Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had bypassed him and other colleagues on occasions.

Mr Powell's former chief-of-staff Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson made the damning allegations last month, accusing Cheney and Rumsfeld of running a "cabal" and hijacking US military and foreign policy.

Discussions with Rumsfeld about dealing with the aftermath of the Iraq invasion were "not pleasant", Mr Powell admitted in the interview.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: atta; bush; bush43; colinpowell; georgewbush; intelligence; iraq; iraqwmd; powell; prewarintelligence; slamdunk; whitehouse; wmd; wot
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To: ZULU

Shhhhhhhhhh! It's a seeeequit. Don't tell da wabbit. It'll be a surpwize.

Uh...heh...heh..."only joking."

Heh.


61 posted on 12/17/2005 7:15:12 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("He is a [sane] man who can have tragedy in his heart and comedy in his head." - G.K.Chesterton)
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To: neodad

LOL! Still?


62 posted on 12/17/2005 7:15:19 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell
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To: Aussie Dasher
Mr Powell's former chief-of-staff Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson made the damning allegations last month, accusing Cheney and Rumsfeld of running a "cabal" and hijacking US military and foreign policy.

Man, what a scandal! The President, Vice-President, and Secretary of Defense "hijacked" US military and foreign policy! Seriously, you think these bozos every read what they write before it's published?

63 posted on 12/17/2005 7:16:03 PM PST by Timmy
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To: All

64 posted on 12/17/2005 7:18:03 PM PST by AliVeritas (To all traitorous libs and seditious has beens, "Take two gallows and call me in the morning")
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To: Owen
So, you are going to vote based upon a single issue? My combat military friends never decided to shoot enemy combatants based upon Pro-Life or Pro-Choice. They never voted for an elected official based upon this topic. These guys were college educated personnel coming from business, and understood the spider-web of human complexities in decision making.

One focussed, single issue is myopic to the nth degree.

For instance, my brother who saw combat as a chopper pilot in Viet Nam was pro life for Americans. With the combatants, he was pro-choice and gave orders to kill the combatants.

65 posted on 12/17/2005 7:19:33 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Timmy
These illiterate bozos can't read, or write either for that matter. They just move their fingers around on the keyboard and submit whatever shows up on the monitor, expecting the proof readers to edit it-trouble is the proof readers are illiterate too.
66 posted on 12/17/2005 7:22:23 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell
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To: Aussie Dasher
Oh, I have to play "Stop The Tape!" with this one:

Mr Powell's comments follow US President George W. Bush's acceptance earlier this week of responsibility for going to war on intelligence, much of which "turned out to be wrong".

Colon Bowell is trying to distance himself from the "scandal-plagued" administration, so that he can still be acceptable to the lecture circuit...

US administration was never told of doubts about the secret intelligence used to justify war with Iraq

And why is Bowell, who was once National Security Advisor, running to a hostile foreign news service with tales of strife inside the locker room?

For his part, Mr Powell considered the US military could not be deployed in Iraq at its current strength for years to come

And there's a key phrase - for HIS part - this is all about damage control to Bowell's reputation...

Mr Powell confirmed that White House "hawks" US Vice-President Dick Cheney and Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had bypassed him and other colleagues on occasions.

As if Colon Bowell was the final arbiter of all things international.

And finally, here's The Money Shot:

Mr Powell's former chief-of-staff Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson made the damning allegations last month, accusing Cheney and Rumsfeld of running a "cabal" and hijacking US military and foreign policy.

Another knife in the back from the Clinton holdouts at State and CIA - the old "BushCO/Haliburton" conspiracy Trojan gets another life cycle, and Colon Bowell, a darling of the left only slightly less than McCain, gets a chance to appear noble and detached from EvilBoosh.

67 posted on 12/17/2005 7:24:30 PM PST by Old Sarge (In a Hole in the Ground, there Lived a Fobbit...)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

You have to remember that this view of Iraq (that it had WMD) was held during the Clinton administration and didn't change in the Bush administration.
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Maybe Hillary and Bill hid them in Sandy Berger's pants. Stranger things happened during the Clinton White House years...


68 posted on 12/17/2005 7:25:04 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: billhilly

Even Powell seems to recognize that one McCain at a time is all we can take.
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Or maybe he is seeing his actions as they appear to others.


69 posted on 12/17/2005 7:26:19 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Cobra64

Being pro-life doesn't mean being stupid enough to turn the other cheek to an armed enemy determined to kill you.


70 posted on 12/17/2005 7:26:24 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell
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To: popdonnelly
Her loud mouth would betray her presence.
71 posted on 12/17/2005 7:27:28 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot???!!!


72 posted on 12/17/2005 7:27:46 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: MNJohnnie; Aussie Dasher; traderrob6; mystery-ak; b4its2late; FairOpinion; Mo1; billhilly; umgud; ..
re: "Totally nukes the Bush Lied crowd."

Notwithstanding the opening sentence that "the Administration" was not told, the rest of the article takes great pains to mention that Rumsfeld was the evil bloodsucker that "bypassed" Powell, and that conversations were "unpleasant" (read scary for anti-war crowd.)

Am I just that jaded now?

It seems to me that this is a set-piece to pile on Bush that he let Rumsfeld hawks "manipulate the intelligence" and hide doubts from Powell.

Powell will stay as the left's dove-standard, and they will crow "culture of corruption."

Well, here's hoping Bush's tv address is a winner.

73 posted on 12/17/2005 7:30:01 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Prost1

"Valerie Plame a WMD analyst at the CIA. The WH did not know of CIA WMD concerns, something that should have come from her desk.... "

BINGO!
Once again the dots connect.


74 posted on 12/17/2005 7:35:35 PM PST by AmeriBrit (HILLARY's1974 Watergate Crimes: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/925684/posts)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

However, despite everything that is happening on this planet, your only deciding factor is what?


75 posted on 12/17/2005 7:35:51 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: kayak

Thanks for the ping to this; I'd have missed it otherwise, kayak.

I'll save it to my files for future use. What I'd love to know is if Powell really thinks the intel was bad, or if he thinks the weapons were moved to Syria but can't say for a variety of reasons.

Nearly all the head guys put in charge of finding the WMD have said they have credible evidence that WMD were moved to Syria before 3/03. In fact, Powell himself showed satellite photos to the UN that showed convoys of trucks leaving known WMD sites in Iraq for the Syrian border.

Maybe someday we'll know.


76 posted on 12/17/2005 7:45:54 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: mystery-ak

After years of hearing "Bush lied" etc., Powell finally comes clean about it? Sure took him long enough.


77 posted on 12/17/2005 7:48:40 PM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Old Sarge
"Colon Bowell"
ROFLOL...heh heh heh. Truely. It can't get much better then this.
78 posted on 12/17/2005 7:51:32 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Cobra64

My only deciding factor as relates to being pro-life, is that revering the life of the absolutely pure and innocent, does not neccessarily obligate one to extend the same to all living things without any reservations whatsoever.


79 posted on 12/17/2005 7:57:48 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell ( Dems seem confident that Iraqi WMDs won't be found-anyone checked under their seats?)
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To: AliVeritas
What this post needs is more cowbell.

You got it.

80 posted on 12/17/2005 7:59:27 PM PST by BulletBobCo
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