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To: GLDNGUN
Sources told the 11 News I-Team that the electronic trail of MD4Bush does not indicate the postings originated from a government or institutional computer

Excuse my ignorance, but how can they determine that w/o the subpeona?


Obtaining an IP address, and the domain from which it comes is easy and available without going *inside* a business or entity. They can tell if it was a private ISP or a government ISP by the address itself.

Once you know it is a private ISP, getting that ISP to divulge the owner if the IP address, which is most likely a dynamic IP address and therefore depends on the time that it was obtained, is now getting into the account of the ISP and divulging its client's identity which would require a subpoena.
21 posted on 12/16/2005 5:23:30 PM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: Paloma_55; GLDNGUN

Many private ISP's do not change your IP all that often, even if you do have a Dynamic IP Address. You may be able to use your computer daily -- turning it off over night, even -- for weeks without the IP address ever being diffferent. Having a Dynamic IP can often mean that you'll get the IP address you had last time you logged onto the ISP's network unless it isn't available for some reason. If such a reason never arises, you can end up with the same IP address almost indefinitely.

Now, if you have an IP address and several dates/times, you can subpoena the ISP to provide the server logs that relate to that IP address for a window of time encompassing the activity shown in your records. Among those server logs are SMTP logs -- email records of what went out to what addresses and when.

Once all that is known, the noose gets real snug real quick.


26 posted on 12/16/2005 5:37:15 PM PST by HKMk23 (-- speechless --)
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To: Paloma_55
How far away from Pasadena, MD can the computer be? Annapolis is about 10 miles away, as the crow flies. Downtown Baltimore is about 13 miles. From Internet research, it appears that some Comcast IP addresses might map to Pasadena.
34 posted on 12/16/2005 7:05:09 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: Paloma_55
A subpoena is not necessarily necessary.

It would depend on the ISP and their privacy rules. There is no inherent right to privacy in your internet connections. Most ISPs log at least a month's worth of connections, if not more, and if presented with a request for info regarding the bad manners of one of their subscribers, they might just say "Here you go": XXX was logged at that IP at that time and date.If they violate their privacy policy it might open them up to a lawsuit but the info would already be out there. ;-)

37 posted on 12/16/2005 8:09:59 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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