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Industry Execs Meet with Cheney to Promote Research Agenda
EE Times ^ | 12/16/2005 | Mark LaPedus, George Leopold

Posted on 12/16/2005 1:08:43 PM PST by nickcarraway

WASHINGTON — U.S. high-tech industry executives met earlier this week with Vice President Dick Cheney to lobby for more U.S. support for basic science research, sources said Friday (Dec. 16).

The meeting came as two U.S. lawmakers introduced legislation this week designed to boost U.S. innovation. The National Innovation Act of 2005 introduced Wednesday by Sens. John Ensign (R-Nev.) and Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.) seeks to increase investment in basic research, improve science and technology talent and develop a robust innovation infrastructure.

The proposal would also create a President's Council on Innovation to "develop a comprehensive agenda to promote innovation in the public and private sectors," according to Lieberman's office.

Details of the meeting between Cheney and executives from the U.S. semiconductor and other high-tech industries were not known. However, industry sources said the meeting with Cheney illustrates how the threat to U.S. competitiveness will be a key issue in next year's budget battles.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 109th; business; cheney; economy; government; hightech; liberalscientists; lieberman; research; science; technology
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To: Rudder
According to you, we should stop subsidizing science so only those who can generate income from their discoveries, like Edison, can continue. The problem is that kind of short-sighted thinking will eliminate our entire basic research program. Do you know the difference between basic research and applied research? Hint: Edison did not do basic research. Basic research does not generate "inventions" or products that can be sold for profit.

So according to you then, no basic research was ever done before the federal government subsidized it?

21 posted on 12/16/2005 3:55:01 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: JustaCowgirl

So then your point then is that no basic research before the federal government subsidized it? How did we ever get to where we were before the federal government started subsidizing it?


22 posted on 12/16/2005 3:56:17 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Sense

OK, I stand corrected on Intel. The rest of your post is quite interesting, and I agree that patent infringement should be criminal. As it stands now, and individual researcher can have his ideas stolen by anyone with more resources than him, as he can't afford the cost of protecting his/her patent.


23 posted on 12/16/2005 3:58:10 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rudder

Somehow I am not surprised that you have a financial interest in this debate.


24 posted on 12/16/2005 3:58:48 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King

In early times it was subsidized by royalty, e.g., "patrons." Galileo, Descartes, Copernicus, etc. were subsidized by various members of royal families. For others who were rich, there was their own wealth, but they were rare. Other early basic research scientists were allowed to do research while subisidized by the hospitals to which they were appointed, e.g., John Hunter, William Harvey. Today, some companies do basic research, e.g., IBM at their Mohansic Laboratory. But, by and large, basic research in phsyics, for example, requires hugely expensive equipment and facilities all of which are subsidized via University and Govt. joint funding.


25 posted on 12/16/2005 4:08:49 PM PST by Rudder
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To: Rodney King
Somehow I am not surprised that you have a financial interest in this debate.

Not any more...I'm retired, but teach part-time and have a part-time clinical practice.

26 posted on 12/16/2005 4:12:06 PM PST by Rudder
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To: Rudder

How many people realize that Niels Bohr literaly was living off beer money when he was busy establishing the foundations of quantum mechanics?


27 posted on 12/18/2005 10:26:10 AM PST by RightWingAtheist ("Why thank you Mr.Obama, I'm proud to be a Darwinist!")
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To: RightWingAtheist

Bohr's Beer?


28 posted on 12/18/2005 10:59:06 AM PST by Rudder
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To: Rudder

Carlsberg, to be precise. The brewery helped pay for Bohr's studies, and in funding the Institute for Theoretical Physics in Copenhagen.


29 posted on 12/18/2005 12:05:05 PM PST by RightWingAtheist ("Why thank you Mr.Obama, I'm proud to be a Darwinist!")
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To: RightWingAtheist

Didn't know that...I used to drink a Carlsberg now and then, but I still can't handle theoretical physics.


30 posted on 12/18/2005 1:06:10 PM PST by Rudder
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