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Smoking foes try to stop parents from lighting up
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^
| December 16, 2005
| Tarron Lively
Posted on 12/16/2005 10:57:51 AM PST by kingattax
Anti-smoking activists who are driving cigarettes from public places across the country are now targeting private homes -- especially those with children.
Their efforts so far have contributed to regulations in three states -- Maine, Oklahoma and Vermont -- forbidding foster parents from smoking around children. Parental smoking also has become a critical point in some child-custody cases, including ones in Virginia and Maryland.
In a highly publicized Virginia case, a judge barred Caroline County resident Tamara Silvius from smoking around her children as a condition for child visitation. Mrs. Silvius, a waitress at a truck stop in Doswell, Va., calls herself "highly disappointed" with the court's ruling.
"I'm an adult. Who is anybody to tell me I can't smoke or drink?" she said in an interview yesterday.
An appeals court upheld the ruling, but not before one judge raised questions about the extent to which a court should become involved in parental rights and whether certain behavior is harmful or simply not in a child's best interest. Mrs. Silvius says she complied with the decision by altering her smoking habits.
"My children know not to come around when I'm on the front porch with my morning coffee, tending to my cows or out in my garden, because I'm having a cigarette," she said. Still, she thinks this was not a matter for the courts because it was not proven that she posed a risk to her children's health.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: govwatch; libertarians; pufflist; smoking; wodlist
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To: metesky; eleni121
You're going to be in for a big surprise when you die in perfect health...Hehe
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posted on
12/17/2005 8:08:14 AM PST
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: nopardons
Why is the first question you're asked at the doctors office, 'do you smoke'.
My question is, are your fingers nicotine stained, and are you afraid to smile because of stained teeth?
This new year is another opportunity for you bite the bullet. It's hard I know, I went from cigs, to cigars, to pipe, snuff, and now only martinis, all over a period of 35 years.
I never defended the habits. Merry Christmas too, and hope Jan 1st you quit, you may put on a little weight, but you may also be less grumpy.
GOOD LUCK
222
posted on
12/17/2005 8:18:33 AM PST
by
duckln
To: duckln
Why is the first question you're asked at the doctors office, 'do you smoke'. My question is, are your fingers nicotine stained, and are you afraid to smile because of stained teeth?
(Adding my 2 cents here)
My Doctor never says anything to me about smoking. Before I go to my appointment, I have a cigarette and wash my hands. I drive to the Doctor's without smoking.
I have great hygiene and never smell like smoke. My fingers are not yellow nor are my teeth! And my hair is freshly washed.
I'm sure if I stunk from smoke, she would badger me about smoking. But since she can't smell it on me, she forgets that I am a smoker.
Good Hygiene is the ticket!
223
posted on
12/17/2005 8:24:41 AM PST
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: Black Birch
Some people don't want to take the risk even at those levels. They want zero riskAnd I want to win Powerball, but I'm not lobbying for laws to increase my chances of winning.
Too bad the bleating of the frightened narcissists is driving public policy now. Thanks to funding by Big Fear, they've gained a voice way beyond their numbers or worth.
To: SheLion
Your doctor
should be advising you not to smoke. She's not doing her job.
Excuses, excuses, good hygiene includes not smoking.
When I was a smoker, ten minutes after a cigarette, I could hold my nose, puff up my checks and exhale a puff of smoke. Do you do that after each cigarette? If not, do you hack and cough more than normal?
225
posted on
12/17/2005 9:30:24 AM PST
by
duckln
To: duckln
Your doctor should be advising you not to smoke. She's not doing her job. Excuses, excuses, good hygiene includes not smoking.
My Doctor HAS advised me not to smoke. However, she soon stopped doing that when she realized that I wasn't going to put up with that chit!
Smoking is legal. I KNOW the risks! Miss Prissy Nose! And I am NOT obese!
She is a good Doctor and so get off my back!
(Good hygiene SHOULD include "Don't give advise unless ASK for it!)
226
posted on
12/17/2005 9:35:05 AM PST
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: kingattax
Anti-smoking activists who are driving cigarettes from public places across the country are now targeting private homesIt is now time to target anti-smoking activists for assassination.
227
posted on
12/17/2005 9:35:56 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
("Over it is not, until over it is." -- Yoda Berra)
To: duckln
When I was a smoker, ten minutes after a cigarette, I could hold my nose, puff up my checks and exhale a puff of smoke. Do you do that after each cigarette? If not, do you hack and cough more than normal?Whaaaaat???!!!!! No. I do not exhale smoke 10 minutes after I smoke. And NO! I do not hack and cough up phlegm.
Next question?
228
posted on
12/17/2005 9:37:57 AM PST
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: duckln
When I was a smoker, ten minutes after a cigarette, I could hold my nose, puff up my checks and exhale a puff of smoke.Methinks thouest is a
229
posted on
12/17/2005 9:40:38 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
("Over it is not, until over it is." -- Yoda Berra)
To: duckln
230
posted on
12/17/2005 9:40:52 AM PST
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: SheLion
If that is your picture, I want to marry you.
Tonight.
231
posted on
12/17/2005 9:42:02 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
("Over it is not, until over it is." -- Yoda Berra)
To: duckln
232
posted on
12/17/2005 9:43:50 AM PST
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: Lazamataz
If that is your picture, I want to marry you.Here's my picture. LOL!
233
posted on
12/17/2005 9:45:33 AM PST
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: Lazamataz
Methinks thouest is a Methinks the same............
234
posted on
12/17/2005 9:46:26 AM PST
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: SheLion
No, they shouldn't have both. Nor should smokers be the scapegoats for collection of money to pay for other peoples health care, (not smoking related) and everything else they need tax money to cover.
When a neighbors is unable to pay their taxes, you are not responsible for paying them for them. When a neighbors house is run down, you are not made responsible for fixing it up. Why are smokers made financially responsible for others health problems, when those health problems have absolutely nothing to do with people having smoked? The tax money collected from smokers goes to help fight AIDS, to fix roads, (which never seem to get fixed anyway) and for all sorts of other socialist pet projects. Moat of which, have no correlation to the smokers life! Hypocrisy at best.
235
posted on
12/17/2005 9:55:30 AM PST
by
gidget7
(Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
To: SheLion
OMG do they actually run that photo??
236
posted on
12/17/2005 9:56:26 AM PST
by
gidget7
(Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
To: gidget7
OMG do they actually run that photo??hehe
Which one?
237
posted on
12/17/2005 10:03:42 AM PST
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: Black Birch
I would like someone to explain why, with all the anti smoking laws, and the decrease (dramatic) of smokers, the asthma rate in children has skyrocketed, instead of decreased. Obviously there is a different cause!
Risk free living does not exist, only minimizing risk and doing your best to plan does. Overuse of antibiotics leads to them being ineffective, sanitizing your house and killing every germ in it, leads to no immunity being built up against anything.
238
posted on
12/17/2005 10:04:19 AM PST
by
gidget7
(Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
To: SheLion
The picture with the kids standing, in a convertible of all things?
239
posted on
12/17/2005 10:08:15 AM PST
by
gidget7
(Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
To: gidget7
The tax money collected from smokers goes to help fight AIDS, to fix roads, (which never seem to get fixed anyway) and for all sorts of other socialist pet projects. Moat of which, have no correlation to the smokers life! Hypocrisy at best.Well, get THIS: MASS used the cigarette tax money two years ago to build a $175,000 GOLF COURSE!
Maine coalition uses the money to sponsor "5" car racing teams AND various race tracks across the state.
Maine also gave cigarette tax money to an old lady in Ellsworth, Maine to plant a GARDEN in the town square.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Outrageous, right?
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posted on
12/17/2005 10:12:11 AM PST
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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