Psychopolitics: Erasing Christianity through the Consensus Process

Sierra Times ^ | 12/16/2005 | Linda Kimball

[twigs]

I read something on FR recently that someone somewhere is proposing a person with radical beliefs or "bias" should be entered into the medical lexicon as a type of disorder that can be diagnosed as such. The first thing I thought of is how easy it could be to have such a person committed to mental institutions. A way to get rid of people who can think...

[Taliesan]

Actually, a facilitator is an important role in such settings as corporate strategy meetings and brainstorming with more than a half dozen participants.

It's so stupid to take perfectly good words and concepts and make them into nefarious things. Obviously, if somebody 'facilitates' you into compromising your belief in the Bodily Resurrection of Christ you and he did a bad thing -- but that doesn't make ALL "facilitation" into a bad thing.

The same with the concept "synthesis". Do you folks think Hegel INVENTED the reality of a thesis and its antithesis being forged into a new synthesis? I use this process every day, and I bet you do too. I manage a business; one group within the business thinks the only way to do something is A (because of value A) and the other group says no, B (because of value B) and it is my job to say "here is a method C which preserves both values A and B."

Thesis, antithesis, synthesis. Facilitation. Consensus.

Real Satanic stuff.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Has been done and is done in some places in the world...

[dsc]

"There are a million such plots. Most of them are open, not esoteric"

The serious ones trace back to the same origin. Many of those active today are using just the tactics described in the article.

[dsc]

"Evil does not exist on its own"

Oh, yes it does, and it is malign and intelligent. More intelligent than we are.

[twigs]

But as far as I know, it hasn't been done here, at least legitimately. This seems to me to be laying the groundwork...

[Taliesan]

Right. There are theses which admit of no movement toward antithesis ("Jesus Christ is God Incarnate"). And there are theses which do ("We should use maple on the cabinets.")

The word 'thesis' is used for all kinds of affirmative statements and positions. Hegelian 'logic" is perfectly useful in the appropriate setting and in fact is ubiquitous. It is not possible for good and evil to reach a consensus position. They have nothing in common. When 'good" moves toward 'evil" the proper term for that is "sin" or "treason", not "consensus".

Just because some goofy liberal decides he can trick dreamy-eyed Christians into sin by using the word "consensus" doesn't make the WORD bad, it just makes the Christian naive. By focusing on the word or the process, as if it holds some black power, you are playing the devil's game along with him.

The MORAL key is not in the diagram of the process (the typical reaction of the dilettante) but in the CONTENT OF THE THESIS AND ITS RESULTANT SYNTHESIS.

Also, 'consensus" and "compromise" are two different things.

I wish I had the time to critique all the semi-literate, semi-biblical pseudo-thought on this thread, but I have syntheses to forge.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

There are people who would like to...

[ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY]

"Evil does not exist on its own, it is parasitic and reactive."

I disagree, Evil is the absence of Good; much like Darkness is the absence of Light, or Cold the absence of Heat

[Neoliberalnot]

Having worked in higher education for 25 years, this is SOP for gaining conformity as the elite define it. Sadly, open expression of all ideas is no longer tolerated, nor encouraged. Welcome to the new millennium, you have the freedom to conform.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

The Nuclear Option

Slapping the donkey...

Red, black, green and gold - - the colors from the Rastafarian religion, the woolen hats in the four Ethiopian colors, the shrines in those colors found in their yards and pictures of Haile Selassie... (A move by the Left to marginalize Ethiopian Jews?)

What you will not hear from these perpetual pro-marijuana masturbaters is that this “ganga” thing is related to the anti-caucasian and racist Rasafarian religion in Jamaica.

Their ideology is that white men are devils. Marcus Garvey in the early 1900's said an African King would become the black messiah. Ras Tafari was crowned King Haile Selassie of Ethiopia and proclaimed to be their messiah in 1930.

According to the Rastafarian pagans, Ras Tafari did not die in 1975, but went to another dimension. He is called “Jah” and considered to be a god. A pagan perversion of Christian theology.

Of course all of this lunacy is centered around smoking the ganga weed.

That is partly why these feminized males will defend pot smoking, drug abuse and deviant use of their anatomy and are not safe to have around children...

A great post...

To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Without touching on their use of MJ, the rastaferians ALSO pointed Haile being the last "Lion of Judah". It is noteworthy that there's a Biblical prophecy that when the last LOJ goes down, Ethiopia turns into a desert.

And, when Haile went down, the Northern core of the country was turned into a desert by its new Communist masters.

131 posted on 11/28/2005 6:04:36 PM PST by muawiyah (u)

Kwanzaa... just another cultural Marxism like the Rastafarian pothead religion...

Now, look a Tookie's Rastafarian hairstyle and tell me if he is not considered a prince of among the New Age Neo-pagan idolators just like Mumia Abu Jamal...

Another source of amazement is the concept of those who hold candlelight vigils (yet another example of religious ceremony) for heinous murderers about to be executed, a large number of whom think it is acceptable to murder an unborn child without the benefit of a trial. Is the “right to life” of one responsible for much murder and mayhem more important than that of a truly innocent unborn child?

Perhaps we should call capital punishment “post-natal abortion” and identify abortion as a “pre-natal death sentence” or “pre-natal summary execution.”

Another example is Michael Jackson. With the undying support of his “fans” (or fanatics) in the face of his more than questionable activities concerning the abuse of children, they still hold him up as an idol. Jackson, both in his family life as a child and his adult life, is a modern extension of pedagogical pagan pedophilia of previous ages in ancient civilizations. Look at the macabre pagan elements of Jackson's video, Thriller. Michael Jackson now resides in Bahrain... coincidence?

Michael Jackson had Nation of Islam thugs as bodyguards escorting him after court appearances through the throngs of frenzied supporters. Is Jackson their new pharaoh? Nation of Islam is a militant racist cult. Their leaders, Louis Farrakhan (the numerologist) and Kahlid Abdul Mohammed, are known Jew haters. They also support many illogical and socially subversive Leftist political activities intent on tearing down the structures of Modern Western Civilization and capitalism. Why did they shower Tookie Williams with so much adoration?

There is a clear connection between modern neo-paganism and ancient paganism related to Islamic conflict with the Judaic roots of Christendom. A focus on how this is manifested in a modern sense only requires a look at pop-culture icons in entertainment, sports “heroes,” and attempts by the Left to use a pseudo-Christian sense of pagan moralistic idolatry to demonize political opposition. I present to you the attack on U.S. Senator Rick Santorum for his comments on sodomy as a useful example. A Sacred Cow, a golden calf.

Is it coincidence that many domestic social issues are being driven by cultic Leftist advocacy of unnatural, phantasmagoric perversity?

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Originally, the Nuclear Option Ping List started out as a practical joke. With all the vitriolic response I received from certain un-named individuals, I figured it would be a great idea to do it for real...

I have observed here on Free Republic, a never ending flaming of religious folks and conservatives by people who promote things such as drug abuse, homosexuality, the ritual murder of abortion and other garbage.

Not being an orthodox or ecumenical atheist, it has really stretched my patience. I do not think policemen are jack-booted thugs, nor do I look at people who want to protect their families from filthy scum as brownshirts.

The purpose of this is to alert people to the cultural Marxism run amok... Drugs, sex perverts, pornography (in film and in music), marijuana, liquor, bashing the religious people, destroying social institutions (like marriage and the Boy Scouts), etc., etc.,... ad nausea...

The druggies like the sex perverts can only perpetuate an ever increasing market for their filth by molesting the minds and bodies of the young ones... this is the only way they get new Demo-rat voters... CHEMICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE!

It is no coincidence Islamic pagans hate Israel, Jews, Christians and Western Civilization. The entire basis of Western Civilization is Mosaic Law, something both the Neo-Pagan Left and the pagan Islamic thugs cannot abide and wish to destroy.

The very idea that human beings have individual rights not subject to the whims of a monarch, but subject to the laws of Yahweh, is directly from Moses.

Historically, this is proven over and over again with the succsessive conflicts between the forces of paganism and the Judaic culture. It is being played out here and all over the world today...

Observing this as an atheist, I prefer the paradigm of a Judaic culture to the chaotic death cult of New Age neo-pagan absurdity.

[ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY]

" Do you folks think Hegel INVENTED the reality of a thesis and its antithesis being forged into a new synthesis?"

The first person I heard to use the terms was Karl Marx!

[Taliesan]

Right!!!! That is MY point. "Consensus" is a tactic! It is morally neutral! It derives its moral content from the specific instance. It can be good to seek a consensus, in some settings and about some issues, and it can be outright apostasy to even think about a consensus in other settings or over other issues.

"Flanking" is a tactic. It might be good, it might be bad.

But good grief, you don't want to adopt the position that all flanking was invented by, say, Hitler, in an effort to rule the world, even though it is true that every time Hitler used the tactic it was evil, because his aim was evil.

Why abandon the term and the concept because some idiot misused it?

[ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY]

" Do you folks think Hegel INVENTED the reality of a thesis and its antithesis being forged into a new synthesis?"

The first person I heard to use the terms was Karl Marx!

[dsc]

"But good grief, you don't want to adopt the position that all flanking was invented by, say, Hitler"

I don't think anyone has suggested that.

"Why abandon the term and the concept because some idiot misused it?"

Or that. I thought the author was just trying to clarify the tactics.

[dsc]

"The first person I heard to use the terms was Karl Marx!"

One interesting thing about "Dawn to Decadence" by Barzun is that it appears such utopian movements have been around for at least hundreds of years.

[Aquinasfan]

Having worked in higher education for 25 years, this is SOP for gaining conformity as the elite define it.

Can you give me some examples of what you've seen? Are you in a state college or private college?

[Luke21]

I don't want to hinge this thing on the word "consensus" or anything else. There's a spiritual war going on. This article is correct in many areas.

St. Paul wrote that our enemies our not entirely flesh and blood, but are principalities and powers of darkness in high places. These are strong Christian doctrines many here are discussing. We are talking about the ruling of the world by the "prince of this world" and his dark allies.

Multiculturalism is a Satanic enterprise. You can label me a nut or a kook, but that's my opinion. Anything so divisive and anti-Christian, masquerading as tolerance, had to be hatched in Hell. We must fight it at every opportunity. I hope you will join us, whether you be Christian or not.

[Aquinasfan]

I read something on FR recently that someone somewhere is proposing a person with radical beliefs or "bias" should be entered into the medical lexicon as a type of disorder that can be diagnosed as such. The first thing I thought of is how easy it could be to have such a person committed to mental institutions.

This was standard practice in the former Soviet Union, and a good reason why psychology should be severely scrutinized. Unfortunately, psychology, or psychological mumbo-jumbo, pervades our society.

As far as I know, the three main branches of psychology are Freudianism, Jungianism, and Behaviorism. It's apparent now that Freudianism was invented out of whole cloth. Jungianism is occultic. And Behaviorism, while it may contain trivial truths, is perniciously reductionistic. So what's left?

[twigs]

You are not a nut or kook. You are exactly right and stated what is happening in clear and concise language.

I think even Christians, in our "enlightened" and "reasonable" age, forget the source of the real conflict. We need to be reminded. Thank you for doing that.