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To: Aquinasfan
Actually, a facilitator is an important role in such settings as corporate strategy meetings and brainstorming with more than a half dozen participants.

It's so stupid to take perfectly good words and concepts and make them into nefarious things. Obviously, if somebody 'facilitates' you into compromising your belief in the Bodily Resurrection of Christ you and he did a bad thing -- but that doesn't make ALL "facilitation" into a bad thing.

The same with the concept "synthesis". Do you folks think Hegel INVENTED the reality of a thesis and its antithesis being forged into a new synthesis? I use this process every day, and I bet you do too. I manage a business; one group within the business thinks the only way to do something is A (because of value A) and the other group says no, B (because of value B) and it is my job to say "here is a method C which preserves both values A and B."

Thesis, antithesis, synthesis. Facilitation. Consensus.

Real Satanic stuff.

22 posted on 12/16/2005 6:33:39 AM PST by Taliesan (The power of the State to do good is the power of the State to do evil.)
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To: Taliesan

" Do you folks think Hegel INVENTED the reality of a thesis and its antithesis being forged into a new synthesis?"

The first person I heard to use the terms was Karl Marx!


32 posted on 12/16/2005 6:59:04 AM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY (( Terrorism is a symptom, ISLAM IS THE DISEASE!))
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To: Taliesan

" Do you folks think Hegel INVENTED the reality of a thesis and its antithesis being forged into a new synthesis?"

The first person I heard to use the terms was Karl Marx!


34 posted on 12/16/2005 7:02:39 AM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY (( Terrorism is a symptom, ISLAM IS THE DISEASE!))
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To: Taliesan
It's so stupid to take perfectly good words and concepts and make them into nefarious things. Obviously, if somebody 'facilitates' you into compromising your belief in the Bodily Resurrection of Christ you and he did a bad thing -- but that doesn't make ALL "facilitation" into a bad thing.

Obviously.

The same with the concept "synthesis". Do you folks think Hegel INVENTED the reality of a thesis and its antithesis being forged into a new synthesis?

No, of course not. But Hegel reduced everthing to his process, including God. But like I said before, he hypocritically exempted his own philosophy from the "thesis," "antithesis," "synthesis" process.

I use this process every day, and I bet you do too. I manage a business; one group within the business thinks the only way to do something is A (because of value A) and the other group says no, B (because of value B) and it is my job to say "here is a method C which preserves both values A and B."

That's trivial. But don't be naive. Official "facilitators" are often brought in to bring the peons to the preconceived consensus, most notoriously with respect to "diversity training."

45 posted on 12/16/2005 7:31:25 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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