Putting his ugly face to the name.
Posted on 12/15/2005 6:15:19 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
TWO men accused of being members of a terrorist organisation allegedly discussed whether Prime Minister John Howard and his family should be killed as payback for the deaths of innocent Muslims, a Melbourne court has been told.
The allegation was made at the second day of a bail hearing for Abdulla Merhi, 20, of Fawkner, and Hany Taha, 31, of Hadfield, at the Melbourne Magistrates' Court. They are among 10 men charged with being members of a terrorist organisation last month.
Eight of the men also have been charged with financing a terrorist organisation.
The alleged leader of the group, Muslim preacher Abdul Nacer Benbrika, 45, of Dallas, has also been charged with directing a terrorist organisation.
Crown prosecutor Nick Robinson today said police intercepted discussions between Benbrika and Merhi where they discussed jihad.
Mr Robinson said that in the conversation Merhi said: "For example if John Howard kills innocent Muslim families do we ... do we have to kill him and his family ... his people like at the football?"
Benbrika allegedly replies "if they kill our kids we kill little kids".
Merhi then says "innocent ones" and Benbrika replies "innocent ones," according to transcripts of the discussions read out in court.
Lawyers for Merhi and Taha have said the Crown prosecution case against their clients was weak and delays in the court proceedings were expected.
The prosecution has opposed the bail application and said the men did not meet the exceptional circumstances required to receive bail.
The bail hearing before Magistrate Reg Marron continues.
And on American soil, we now have this from CAIR: FL Muslims to Offer Reward for Info on Double Homicide
Australia has a small enough population, to just throw the phuques out.
No muslim continent.
Putting his ugly face to the name.
Ugly in every way imaginable!
The people in government, regardless of which party, who let these twisted sociopaths into our country really do have a lot to answer for.
I WANNA KNOW WHO'S RESPONSIBLE!
Paul Keating was Prime Minister, but the man responsible more than anyone else is Keating's then Parliamentary Secretary, "Dr" Andrew Theophanus.
19th April 2000
Theophanous falls out with Labor Party
Andrew Theophanous, the federal Labor MP charged with accepting bribes, today resigned from the Australian Labor Party.
Dr Theophanous told reporters he would continue to hold his seat as an independent.
"I have today informed the leader of the Australian Labor Party, Mr Kim Beazley, of my resignation from the Australian Labor Party," Dr Theophanous said.
"It is with great sadness that I have taken this step."
He faces 27 charges stemming from an NCA investigation, including allegations he conspired to defraud the Commonwealth and breaches of the Migration Act.
It is alleged he accepted more than $35,000 to help people with immigration problems.
Dr Theophanous has not entered a plea.
He has been the Member for the Victorian seat of Calwell since 1984 and held the seat of Burke from 1980-1984.
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Yes, I remember now...
Do the Aussies exercise the death penalty?
Not right now. A major terrorist attack will change a lot of people's minds on the death penalty.
"We should note that the majority of Theophanus's old seat of Calwell is now occupied by Muslims - a goodly number of which are members of the ALP. Coincidence? Not bloody likely!!!!"
And Iemma, the Premier of NSW is the son of an immigrant Calabrian member of the Italian Communist Party, a friend of the disgraced Graham Richardson the Labor Party's 'number cruncher' - nice going you b*stards, you've sold your soul and the heart of Sydney down the drain for the muslim vote.
I have a relative of Italian immigrant descent in Sydney, the entire family loathe and despise Iemma. Labor may have made a huge mistake here - the multi-cultural vote will desert them as a result of it's support of Lebanese thuggery IMO.
A little more info in Abu Bkr the handsome muzzie psycho pictured #4 aka Abdul Nacer Benbrika:
Plot to kill Howard
By KATIE LAPTHORNE
December 17, 2005
TERROR suspects talked chillingly about killing John Howard and his family as payback for the deaths of innocent Muslims, a court heard yesterday.
The conversation between accused would-be suicide bomber Abdulla Merhi and his spiritual leader Abdul Nacer Benbrika was covertly recorded in September last year.
The pair allegedly discussed taking "an eye for an eye" and how kafirs (non-believers) had taken over the world.
Merhi told the alleged leader of the Melbourne terror cell: "I want in on everything. If there is anything you talk to me, all right? I am not going to talk anymore."
The 20-year-old allegedly asked Benbrika how to respond if the Prime Minister was to cause the death of innocent Muslim families.
"Do we have to kill him and his family ... his people like at the football?" he said.
Benbrika replied: "If he kill our kids ... we kill (inaudible) little kids."
Prosecutor Nick Robinson said the pair spoke of committing violent jihad in the name of Allah and believed the doors of heaven would be opened to them for doing so.
Merhi said on the tape his eyes had recently been opened and a message had to be sent.
"I have made my point. If it comes up I will go but I am not waiting 20 years or two years," he said.
Benbrika said innocent ones could be the victims: "Because he kills our innocent ones ... that is it. An eye for an eye."
He also encouraged the younger man to do a "big thing" close to railway stations.
Mr Robinson said the conversation demonstrated the strength of the case against the men.
Magistrate Reg Marron said: "(The material) contains some disturbingly strong and reasonably assertive positions ... what they mean will no doubt become clear."
Merhi's barrister Robert Richter QC had argued the conversations were nothing more than thrashing out of theological issues, a claim dismissed by prosecutors.
"It is more than a religious discussion there is no doubt about that," Mr Robinson said.
"It is clearly about preparing ... for a violent jihad."
Merhi and his co-accused Hany Taha, 31, were yesterday denied bail for a second time. The duo were part of a group of 10 men charged last month with being a member of a terrorist organisation.
Eight of those men, including Merhi and Taha, also face a charge of funding a terrorist organisation.
The unnamed group allegedly plotted a violent jihad in Australia, ordering chemicals and discussing bomb-making.
Mr Marron said the case against the terror suspects was not overwhelmingly strong.
"It is a circumstantial case, it is an interpretive case, it involves many interpretations," he said.
Mr Marron said while he was concerned the men remained locked-up in Barwon Prison's high-security Acacia unit, they had not reached the threshold of exceptional circumstances.
They were remanded in custody to appear in court again in April.
WHOOPS, SORRY, POSTED IT AGAIN.
"It is more than a religious discussion there is no doubt about that," Mr Robinson said. "It is clearly about preparing ... for a violent jihad."
Did he ever consider that for a RoPer, this is a "religious" discussion?
Did he ever consider that for a RoPer, this is a "religious" discussion?
LOL! Obviously not. But give him time, he'll hopefully learn.
(like, why are those devout muzzies burning my car, raping my daughters, burning down churches...and that's just an entree.)
I've been out for a couple days .....
Does this refer to Dallas, Texas or do you have a Dallas in Australia?
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