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Waging jihad with $$$s (Saudis $40M Harvard)
www.jnewswire.com ^ | December 14th, 2005 | Stan Goodenough

Posted on 12/15/2005 12:43:20 PM PST by Esther Ruth

Waging jihad with $$$s By Stan Goodenough

December 14th, 2005

Why would a Saudi Arabian prince give $40 million in grants to two prestigious American universities?

And why choose Harvard as one of them?

These conundrums had news anchors in the United States speculating wildly Wednesday morning.

Fox News’ Alan Colmes suggested that Prince Ali Walid Bin-Talal – who the liberal co-host of the popular Hannity & Colmes show called “a friend of America” – had made the generous gesture in order to encourage the creation of an environment in which young Americans could learn more about the “true nature” of Islam in a manner geared to instill tolerance for other faiths.

Rebutting him, conservative Sean Hannity wondered why the prince did not sponsor a course in tolerance in his home country.

When it comes to religion, Saudi Arabia is probably the most intolerant country on the face of the earth. The public worship of religions other than the official version of Sunni Islam is prohibited by law.

Not a single church or synagogue exists in the desert-kingdom. Jews are not welcome there at all, and when Christians visit, woes betide them if they try to bring in their Bibles, which can and have been confiscated and even shredded at Jeddah's airport.

The right of Christians to hold Bible studies and prayer meetings in the privacy of their own homes is not defined in law and is seldom respected in practice. Christians have been persecuted and executed in this land – the birthplace of Islam.

But here comes Bin-Talal, one of the richest men in the world, doling out megabucks to two influential American study centers in order to engender a teaching of tolerance?

There are a number of words to define his action. Hypocrisy and impudence are two of them.

The real motive behind his sweeping signing of large checks, however, is more subtle, devious and perilous than many realize.

It was an investment in jihad – the Islamic principle and duty of holy war. His money was indeed meant to open the doors to greater tolerance in the USA, but not to tolerance for other faiths. Only tolerance for Islam – so that it can flourish and spread.

While often perpetrated in acts of violence, terrorism and mass murder (bus-bombings in Israel, the 9-11 attack on the USA) jihad can also be waged by other means, including acts of social welfare, and education.

Whether through the barrel of an AK-47 or the appointment of Muslims to the faculties of American universities and the promotion of Islam on those campuses – the aim is always the same: To bring the targeted individuals and/or nations into submission to Allah – into Dar al-Islam (the world of Islam).

Harvard is to use its gift to establish a university-wide program on Islamic studies.

Georgetown plans to plough its $20 million – the second largest donation it has ever received – into expanding its Center for Christian-Muslim Understanding.

Exemplary as the latter project sounds – and no doubt the thought of nurturing an environment like this will warm the heart of Mr. Colmes and Co. – the reality established through 1400 or so years since Mohammed entered the picture, and vividly evidenced in Muslim states until today, is that Islam is only tolerant of those who submit to its ways.

Islam means submission. It stands for coercive domination and forced subjugation. Its adherents – from Osama Bin Laden to Ali Walid Bin-Talal to the sheiks and imams in mosques from Mecca to Ramallah to London to New York – are all champions of this cause.

Islam is expanding its borders at a petrifying pace. It first feasted on the lands where Christianity flourished at its birth and has long been preparing to swallow Europe, the erstwhile bastion of Christendom.

And it is licking its lips as it conducts forays into the heart of America, one of the last nations to nurture the Christian flame.

Fueled by the belief that it is soon to see the realization of its terror-driven effort to disinherit the Jews of half their historic homeland in readiness for their takeover of it all, the eyes of 1.8 billion Muslims that looked westwards in September 2001, are gleaming in anticipation now as they survey the once inconceivable inroads their creed has made across the USA.

It is bitterly ironic that the religion of the men who struck New York and the Pentagon with such brutality has been the foremost beneficiary of those attacks.

Since then, the Bush administration has fallen over backwards to make fact out of two fallacies: that Islam is a religion of peace, and that Allah and the God of the Bible are one.

Prince Bin-Talal clearly believes in making hay while the White House shines on him and his co-religionists.

His investment in the destruction of America will escape the probes of the CIA and Department of Homeland Security as they work to close down the charities that are fronts for funding Hamas, Al-Qaeda and so on.

The Saudi prince is sowing his seeds of corruption into the lives of young Americans. By choosing Harvard – a school founded on the Christian faith for the training of Christian leaders back in the very first days of the United States – he has (wittingly or otherwise) identified and targeted a symbol of what the nation’s founding fathers intended it to become.

His objective: the next generation of American leaders.

Whether or not they need to be educated in the finer points of Islam is debatable. When it comes to the most visible conflict between Islam and the Judeo-Christian world, untold numbers of American students are already firmly in the Arab’s court.

In a press release accompanying another large check cleverly presented to New York Mayor Rudi Giuliani to help alleviate the suffering caused by Bin-Talal’s fellow Saudis in 2001, the prince called for the US to “re-examine its policies in the Middle East and adopt a more balanced stance toward the Palestinian cause.”

“Our Palestinian brethren continue to be slaughtered at the hands of Israelis while the world turns the other cheek,” it went on. (An outraged Giuliani sent back the check.)

Those statements resonate in the words of a Harvard Law School student who participated in a study released this year called “America 2020: How the next [American] generation views Israel” (Frank I. Luntz for The Israel Project; June 2005).

“I think that what Israel’s doing to the Palestinians is effectively what was done to the Jews in Europe during World War II. I understand they’re living in a regime of terror, but frankly, if I were a Palestinian, I don’t know that I would not strap on a bomb and go and kill myself.”

The speaker, who is not named, was described as a woman who “someday hopes to run for politics. She is a future leader of America, and she is not alone.”

With his billions, Bin-Talal is aiming to insure that Harvard and Georgetown will turn out many more like her. JNW Site Search


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 40million; aliwalidbintalal; educationfunding; georgetownu; harvard; highereducation; influence; islamicstudies; jihad; saudi

1 posted on 12/15/2005 12:43:23 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: Esther Ruth
Fox News’ Alan Colmes suggested that Prince Ali Walid Bin-Talal – who the liberal co-host of the popular Hannity & Colmes show called “a friend of America” – had made the generous gesture in order to encourage the creation of an environment in which young Americans could learn more about the “true nature” of Islam in a manner geared to instill tolerance for other faiths.

Monica (Crowley), Alan's beautiful wife should cut Alan off for good!

2 posted on 12/15/2005 12:47:20 PM PST by bertmerc1
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To: Esther Ruth

Georgetown: Jesuit


3 posted on 12/15/2005 12:47:46 PM PST by RoadTest (Religion never saved a soul - that's Jesus' job.)
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To: Esther Ruth
Fox News’ Alan Colmes suggested that Prince Ali Walid Bin-Talal – who the liberal co-host of the popular Hannity & Colmes show called “a friend of America” – had made the generous gesture in order to encourage the creation of an environment in which young Americans could learn more about the “true nature” of Islam in a manner geared to instill tolerance for other faiths.

Alan, Alan, Alan--you should stay at home, where your childlike faith in tyrants will never be challenged.

4 posted on 12/15/2005 12:51:32 PM PST by American Quilter
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To: bertmerc1

"Monica (Crowley), Alan's beautiful wife should cut Alan off for good!"

This is a joke, right? Alan and Monica are married?

Just lost my lunch.


5 posted on 12/15/2005 12:55:20 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: Esther Ruth
Almost no one on this forum understands what President Bush has done and the repercussion's for the future.

Americans built modern Saudi Arabia. I was one of them.

Americans in the employee of the Bechtel Corp, Anderson group, Hospital Corp of America and many many others were for many years the surrogate bureaucratic government. The planning, organization and development of the oil field development, the constuctiontion of massive infrastructure, of whole industrial cities, a health care system, a three tiered educations system, etcetera were the products of American minds.

FReepers are ignorant of the very large class of now middle aged Saudis taking control who were educated in America and Great Britain. The came to America and learned how cities and all that goes with them are. They went home and are learning to apply the lessons to the vastly different cultural situation at home.

The Saudi's have succeeded in turning nothing into something in roughly 30 years since 1975. There is great industrial growth utilizing the down stream petrochemical fed stock. This includes making plastics and then making-things from plastics and other such production.

The countries of the Gulf are tied together into the Gulf Cooperation Council. A NAFTA like trade group they allow many previously impossible actions. Travel without passports, truck travel with out onerous customs and bureaucratic regulations and numerous other interrogatory actions.

The need for American input will continue albeit not to the degree as in the past where Americans had large hands on influence. The Saudis have worked hard to wean themselves from extremely expensive American managers. The process of Saudization, where the educated Saudis take control has been a painful process but apparently has been successful.

Prince Taleel knows all this. He is Saudi but he is a citizen of the world. He can see the change taking place in Iraq and knows that when Iraq is tied into the GCC there will be a powerful new force in world affairs and especially in trade.

To maintain good relations with Americans it is of interest for Americans to know something about the GCC, Arabs and the GCC. Harvard is the best place to start because it is a large pool of influential leaders to be.

The practice begun at Harvard can spread to other universities. For the record, although the big state universities are thought to be the best place for foreign students, many Saudis came to smaller colleges, even community colleges where they were not subject to the intense pressure of a continuous party life. Believe it or don't but many sincere mu slims shun the high life whisky and beer and wild, wild women.

The need for educated Americans who can assist the region in the fantastic growth that is going to occur is boundless. The trade between America and the GCC will continue to grow.

Don't knock Prince Taleel until you understand what is in store not only for the region but for young Americans certain to be employed as the transformation process begun by President Bush gets underway.

Oh yes....Europe will be the loser as the GCC star ascends, the Roster will decline.

GCC= Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Oman.
6 posted on 12/15/2005 1:22:20 PM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Franks in '08)
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To: Esther Ruth

We need some lawyers to see if this can be blocked under title nine, somehow, or as an equal opportunity issue that demands that equal portions of the money must be spent on Christian, Jewish, Hindu and Buddist studies as well.

In any case the only thing one needs to study to get a better understanding of Islam is the Koran. It state things fairly plainly.

Mohammed, The Mad Poet Quoted....
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1003415/posts

Muslim Disinformation Campaign: Throwing dust in the eyes of the infidels
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/821753/posts

Muhammad-inspired persecution of Christians, Jews and all non-Muslims continues...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1033568/posts


7 posted on 12/15/2005 1:31:48 PM PST by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: dennisw

ping


8 posted on 12/15/2005 1:37:33 PM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Franks in '08)
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To: PsyOp
>"We need some lawyers to see if this can be blocked under title nine, somehow, or as an equal opportunity issue that demands that equal portions of the money must be spent on Christian, Jewish, Hindu and Buddist studies as well."

How about a step further, Allah copies of the Queeran in this country are outlawed and shredded. They have this much respect for Christianity, Judaism, Bhuudism, and, Hinduism,,, We should return their respect similarly!!!!!!


Aap aap ahh dap dap!!!!!
It's a religion of peace
It's a religion of peace



It aint Slim W, but this'll gitr done!
Kill A Commie For Mommie

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9 posted on 12/15/2005 1:50:57 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Why waste time learning when ignorance is instantaneous---Hobbes the Tiger)
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To: rawcatslyentist

LOL!


10 posted on 12/15/2005 1:59:49 PM PST by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: RoadTest
I am never going any where near Saudi, I think must they suck your brains out over there before they let ya leave.
11 posted on 12/15/2005 3:59:51 PM PST by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3 Genesis 12:1-3 ***ZECH 12:3)
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To: RoadTest

RE: I am never going any where near Saudi, I think must they suck your brains out over there before they let ya leave.

OK I'll try that again,
I am like sort of thinking for some reason...that folks should not ever never go near Saudi Arabia, cause maybe they must and most certainly must suck all your brains out before leaving.


12 posted on 12/15/2005 4:02:58 PM PST by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3 Genesis 12:1-3 ***ZECH 12:3)
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To: bert

Friday bump


13 posted on 12/16/2005 6:07:43 AM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Franks in '08)
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