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Polish Police Accused Of Beating Chechen Refugees
Radio Free Europe ^ | 13 December 2005

Posted on 12/15/2005 9:43:33 AM PST by lizol

Polish Police Accused Of Beating Chechen Refugees

13 December 2005 -- Chechen pro-independence media today slammed Polish law enforcement agencies for allegedly raiding a reception center for Chechen asylum seekers in the eastern city of Lublin.

The Western-based Kavkaz-Tsenter and Daymokh information websites said the incident occurred on 11 December. They claim Polish special police forces beat up asylum seekers after cordoning off the premises. When they eventually left, the security forces allegedly hauled away three men.

The websites quote eyewitnesses as saying police claimed they were looking for explosives intended for terrorist attacks in Poland.

Polish authorities have not commented on the reports, which could not be independently confirmed. Poland is home to an estimated 3,500 asylum seekers from Chechnya, who live in 16 reception centers.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chechens; chechenwar; czechnya; easterneurope; eeurope; eurasia; poland; russia
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1 posted on 12/15/2005 9:43:34 AM PST by lizol
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To: Lukasz; vox_PL; Grzegorz 246; twinself; REactor; kaiser80
The websites quote eyewitnesses as saying police claimed they were looking for explosives intended for terrorist attacks in Poland.

Well, it looks like the Chechens are workign really hard to keep Poles' sypathy for them (sarcasm).
2 posted on 12/15/2005 9:45:23 AM PST by lizol
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To: lizol

Chechen Refugees saw it work in GITMO.


3 posted on 12/15/2005 9:47:02 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: lizol; REactor; jb6

These are just peaceful little Chechens wanting to play with their Polish buddies who have defended them over and over in these forums.


4 posted on 12/15/2005 9:49:45 AM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: ncountylee
Chechen Refugees saw it work in GITMO.

They can thank the American left and a few RINOs too.

5 posted on 12/15/2005 9:58:17 AM PST by b4its2late (There are good terrorists - dead ones.)
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To: GarySpFc

lol. What a witty comment ;)


6 posted on 12/15/2005 10:07:20 AM PST by kaiser80
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To: lizol

"Poland is home to an estimated 3,500 asylum seekers from Chechnya, who live in 16 reception centers."

My parents live in Ukraine which is home to thousands of refugees from Chechnya and Afganistan. They often complain that now Ukrainian people need an asylum from these "refugees". Some of them are true beasts.


7 posted on 12/15/2005 10:14:25 AM PST by igor1
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To: kaiser80

I have been telling each of you over and over my buddies in Special Ops have been saying the Chechens are some of the most evil sobs on this earth. You have continued to defend them, because your hatred is so strong sleeping with the devil is preferable to you than getting along with the Russia.


8 posted on 12/15/2005 11:53:15 AM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc

What???? After they named streets and plazas after Chechen "heros"!!! How beastly of them.


9 posted on 12/15/2005 12:39:57 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: lizol; Alex-DV; ValenB4; truemiester; anonymoussierra; zagor-te-nej; Freelance Warrior; kedr; ...

Can't say I didn't say so, but damn if I didn't say so. Poland is getting a taste of Russia's reality, just like France got a taste of Israel's reality.


10 posted on 12/15/2005 12:41:25 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Wiz; spanalot; vox_PL; Thunder90

Here are some more of those poor, defenseless chechen refugees. Those poor boyscouts.


11 posted on 12/15/2005 12:47:02 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: ncountylee

Well they saw the Poles naming streets after Chechen "heros" and figured they'd be right at home, so they started acting as if they were at home. Just keep in mind the 3,500 are "registered", I wonder how many of their friends and relations have snuck in unregistered.


12 posted on 12/15/2005 12:52:05 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: kaiser80

Soon your wives, daughters and girlfriends will be embracing Sharia Law, and marrying nice little Muslim boys...not by choice.


13 posted on 12/15/2005 12:55:45 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc; jb6; lizol

You didn't think of the fact that our Police had some info from Chechens that their mates are planning sth? If so, I'm pretty calm in terms of Chechen terrorism threat in Poland.


14 posted on 12/15/2005 12:57:47 PM PST by kaiser80
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To: kaiser80

No, I do not believe your police received information from other Chechens.


15 posted on 12/15/2005 1:00:21 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc
In our history we had pretty large muslim community and our wives, daughters and girlfriends didn't embrace Sharia Law. It was exactly the opposite.

I don't fear political refugees who fled the death and opression. They are welcome. It's a polish tradition and I can't help it.

16 posted on 12/15/2005 1:04:32 PM PST by kaiser80
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To: GarySpFc
No, I do not believe your police received information from other Chechens.

Yes, our police makes raids against Chechens every week just for the fun ;) Second option is that they (those captured) are too stupid to keep a secret...Nevertheless It doesn't change my attitude towards them at all.

17 posted on 12/15/2005 1:07:56 PM PST by kaiser80
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To: kaiser80
Ahhhh, multiculturalism at its finest.
18 posted on 12/15/2005 1:13:47 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc
Pravda.RU:Society:More in detail

13:08 2003-01-08

Favoring Chechen militants: What will it lead to?

There is a saying in Russia which goes: I'll put out an eye so that my mother-in-law has a one-eyed son-in-law. That's what comes to mind when one reads about Poland's recent unfriendly actions in respect of Russia. Despite a note from the Russian foreign ministry, the Polish authorities refused to shut down a representative office of Chechen separatists, allowing the "embassy" of the Maskhadov people to stay on its premises at the Palace of Culture in the center of Warsaw. Furthermore, Polish officials declared they would not extradite those of the Chechen militants who escaped from Russia on the ground the authorities have no proof of their involvement with terrorist organizations. All that was done despite Russia's warnings that there were connections between Chechen separatists and international terrorist centers. It seems like the purpose of Warsaw's actions is to do Russia a bad turn, even if it means harm to itself as well.

The events described are taking place in the wake of the tragedy at Moscow's Theater Center in Dubrovka and the kamikaze attack on the House of Government in Grozny, which killed dozens of innocent people. Both monstrosities were unanimously condemned worldwide.

Warsaw, however, does not seem to take heed of what is happening in the world. Representatives of the so-called Republic of Ichkeria, which used to run offices in many European countries and in the USA, were shown the door after the aforementioned terrorist acts. The heads of all these countries realized, although somewhat late, the danger of Chechen extremism.

The Polish protectors of Chechen separatists had better recall the outcome of Georgia's "sympathy" towards Chechen militants. On that occasion, too, the authorities defended "innocent refugees" from Chechnya, as they called them. And what did it lead to? Chechen militants, who entrenched themselves in the Pankisi Gorge, began setting up strong points and training camps for terrorists from other countries. Eventually, the gorge became an enclave of banditry and international terrorism. Here's a more recent example. The Islamic fanatics that were arrested in France while trying to engineer terrorist acts against Russian representative offices testified they had undergone training first in Al-Qaeda camps in Afghanistan and then, after the fall of the Taleban regime, in Chechen militant bases in the Pankisi Gorge, alongside several groups of kamikazes preparing to be transferred to Belgium, Holland, Italy, Britain and other European countries. (It doesn't take a genius to deduce what for.) Another example. In that same Pankisi Gorge, law enforcers captured several Chechen terrorists responsible for explosions in apartment buildings in Russia and other terrorist acts against the Russian population. The operation was conducted in accordance with an agreement reached between presidents Vladimir Putin and Edward Shevardnadze.

That was how Chechen militants said thanks to the hospitality of the Georgian authorities. No one is able to guarantee that nothing of the kind will happen in Poland, that terrorist bases, to say nothing of banal criminal groups, won't be set up in Polish cities.

Political flirt with militants is fraught with consequences of the kind that we already saw in other countries. It is simply unwise to ignore their experience.

And there's also the fact that Warsaw's manner of favoring Chechen separatists can hardly add to the strengthening of Russian-Polish cooperation and interaction in various spheres.

© RIAN

19 posted on 12/15/2005 1:38:38 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: lizol

I would change Chechens to Chechen Islamists. This is not for "Political Correctness" sake, but to clarify that there are really decent Russian citizens and ethnic Chechens who just came to Poland and other EU countries escape a nightmare Yeltsin/Putin and Dudayev/Maskhadov/Basayev got them into.

However, with them came also Jihadists who feel no sense of respect to the country that took them in, and who are trying to launch jihad there. So I want to distinguish between decent Chechens and Chechen Islamists. The former should be integrated into their host countries. The latter should be immediately arrested and persecuted to a full extent of the law to avoid any terror attacks in the future.


20 posted on 12/15/2005 1:46:01 PM PST by sergey1973 (Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
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