[Lurking Libertarian]

Yes, Virginia, there are conservative evolutionists.

[Lurking Libertarian]

Alerting Darwin Central to a possibly ping-worthy thread.

[EagleUSA]

The ACLU. Like the rest of the communists trying to tear apart America.

[orionblamblam]

> there are conservative evolutionists.

How can there not be? The two are both logic-and-evidence based. Liberalism and creationisn are not.

[Paradox]

"From my perspective as a conservative, I think science education is important," he added. "And I'm not religiously sympathetic to anti-evolutionists, who I think are lunatics."

As an evolutionist, I am bothered by the name calling and slandering by BOTH sides of this issue. Why is his last comment neccessary?

[Tax-chick]

"From my perspective as a conservative, I think science education is important," he added. "And I'm not religiously sympathetic to anti-evolutionists, who I think are lunatics."

So what matters in evaluating the situation is his personal feelings about "anti-evolutionists," not anything to do with the law. How conservative of him. (/phooey)

[DoctorMichael]

".....Hogue signed on to an amicus brief filed on behalf of Georgia Citizens for Integrity in Science Education, which supports the ACLU side of the case......

Independently of the ACLU, Hogue signed on to an amicus brief filed on behalf of Georgia Citizens for Integrity in Science Education, which supports, while not supporting the ACLU directly, just happens to support the ACLU side of the case.

"........Yes, Virginia, there are conservative evolutionists............"

You rang?

[DoctorMichael]

"......."And I'm not religiously sympathetic to anti-evolutionists, who I think are lunatics.".........."

Agree completely!

[cripplecreek]

Yes there are.

[sagar]

I don't see why there is even a "debate". It isn't as if creationism has any scientific or rational merit. It is just based on ancient legends and feelings.

- "My granddaddy wasn't an ape!!"
- "Darwin isn't god!!"
- "95% of Americans believe in God!!"
- "You ask evidence? Check out [Ancient Scripture].[Chapter#].[Verse#]"

^^^ Irrelevant arguments.

[shuckmaster]

"And I'm not religiously sympathetic to anti-evolutionists, who I think are lunatics."

You've got my conservative vote sir!

[wallcrawlr]

From the article:

'ATTACKS ON CHRISTIAN EXPRESSION'

Hogue's former group, the Southeastern Legal Foundation, has not taken a public position on the case.

Executive Director Shannon L. Goessling, who succeeded Hogue in September 2004, spoke highly of her predecessor but is in favor of returning the stickers to the textbooks.

"It appears that, on a daily basis, we're bombarded with attacks on Christian expression," she said.

She said Hogue's brief "suggests that critical thinking and faith are somehow mutually exclusive."

"There are students at every Cobb County school who are taught, at home and at church, to believe in creationism," said Goessling. "That doesn't mean that they all fail science by definition."

Goessling said this is a case in which reasonable minds can disagree. "This is not a separation-of-church-and-state case," she said. "This is a case allowing competing theories to be taught. ... The sticker is a simple declaratory statement that does not favor or disfavor evolution as a scientific theory."

Goessling's analysis reflects many of the pro-sticker arguments in the case, including the one filed by Cobb County and an amicus brief on behalf of the states of Texas and Alabama, both of which have disclaimers in science textbooks.

Marietta attorney Ernest Linwood Gunn IV, representing Cobb County, wrote in his brief, "The Court's focus should be, first and foremost, on the neutral language of the Sticker itself, together with the extensive evolutionary curriculum to which it is attached.

"The issue is not whether the Sticker has educational merit, whether it is well-written, or whether one can imagine persons offended by its meaning. The issue is whether the Sticker endorses religion. Both on its face, and in its specific content, this Sticker does not," wrote Gunn, who did not return a call for comment.

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[Zack Nguyen]

"And I'm not religiously sympathetic to anti-evolutionists, who I think are lunatics."

This sort of language is insulting and degrading.

[DannyTN]

"Yes, Virginia, there are conservative evolutionists."

Yes, but finding one is like getting to visit the north pole. It doesn't happen often.

[ml1954]

"From my perspective as a conservative, I think science education is important," he added. "And I'm not religiously sympathetic to anti-evolutionists, who I think are lunatics."

Sounds like he must have hung out on Crevo threads on FR for awhile.

I was 'religiously sympathetic' several months ago, before I started hanging out on these threads. Now I agree with him.

[VadeRetro]

"From my perspective as a conservative, I think science education is important," he added. "And I'm not religiously sympathetic to anti-evolutionists, who I think are lunatics."

This guy isn't me, but he could be.

[gcruse]

'Twas the night the Enlightenment came to Georgia.

[LiteKeeper]

YEC INTREP

[curiosity]

Excellent. This is just the kind of thing we need to dissassociate the convservative movement from anti-science lunacy.