[microgood]

I really am not sure what you mean by this. I did six years of grad school, and took numerous evolution courses and seminars; I had fossil man and human osteology as two of four subjects on my Ph.D. exams.

My experience with this has only been on FR and anecdotal evidence from my brother and father (both physicians and fervent believers in evolution who do say it is a religion among the promoters based on their college and professional experience) so I really do not know of any great conspiracies, but some of the posts here seem to indicate a kind of irrational dogmatic allegiance to the theory that goes beyond scientific discussion. And when they try to use the establishment clause to force their way into the classroom it is now in the purely political realm. And politics corrupts every it touches, including science.

I have kept up a bit since then in the literature. In all that time I have never heard of some "agenda" such as you seem to be referring. Maybe my invitations to the conspiracy meetings just got lost in the mail, but I think you're just seeing things.

Could be. I was mainly responding to Virginia-American's posts about imprisoning the sticker promoters in Georgia.

As far as putting people in jail? Where is this coming from? Have evolutionists taken to the street with pitchforks (no, that would be rock hammers and trowels)? Not likely.

I sure hope not. Again, this was a response to Virginia-American proposing this.

Since we are now in the courts, this tit for tat between evos and creationists will go on forever. Bottom line, people do not take gravity personally. But when you want to teach religious people's children that they evolved from an common ancestor with a chimp, many of those people take it personally. And that will never change as long as America still exists.

And as long as evolutionary scientists are willing to use left-wing interpretations of the establishment clause to force their view on the schools, their motives will always be suspect, at least among most conservatives.

[WestVirginiaRebel]

But when you want to teach religious peoples' children that they evolved from a common ancestor with a chimp, many of those people take it personally.

And I say, too bad. Their ignorance is their own problem.

[Coyoteman]

And as long as evolutionary scientists are willing to use left-wing interpretations of the establishment clause to force their view on the schools, their motives will always be suspect, at least among most conservatives.

We were doing great in our discussion up to this paragraph. I do not like to be--and will not be--associated with "left-wing" for any reason. Conservatives can disagree over evolution without accusing each other of this "left-wing" garbage.

[Ichneumon]

...use left-wing interpretations of the establishment clause...

Yeah, that Madison, Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt, and the rest, what a bunch of left-wingers, eh?

The "intrepretation" of the establishment clause which you dislike is the same as theirs, son.

Are you sure you really want to try to categorize this as "left-wing", microgood?