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1.4 million immigration population in US from India
HT.com ^ | Washington, December 13, 2005 | HT.com

Posted on 12/14/2005 7:36:46 AM PST by CarrotAndStick

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To: sheana
I have a problem with it. We had to sell and move from our last house because of our next door Indian or Paki neighbors. They do NOT assimilate.

Sounds like Paki's to me. While not all Indians assimilate quickly, they do better than most who come as families, and not as spouses of Americans (IE. "War Brides" or "Mail order brides") With any immigrant group it has historically been the kids who do the assimilating, not the immigrants themselves, unless of course they were kids when they immigrated.

121 posted on 12/14/2005 3:39:59 PM PST by El Gato
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To: pganini; sheana

I'm so glad you found each other.


122 posted on 12/14/2005 3:59:07 PM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: sheana
Considering they spoke NO English....no I never knew exactly where they were from.

Most certainly Paki or other non Indians. Around 50% Indians, speak English, even in India. (Estimate provided by an office mate who is an immigrant from India, albeit several decades ago) It's uniquely accented English, but it is English. India was after all a British colony even longer than the original 13 colonies were. Of course Pakistan was part of India then, but they have different educational standards. The folks could be from Bangladesh, formerly East Pakistan, as well. They tend to be even lower educated and lower income than those from the former "West Pakistan". It's even possible they are second stage immigrants, say from some south American country, but of Indian or Pakistani heritage. I ran into a guy at the transmission shop (He was the owner or at least manager) like that.

123 posted on 12/14/2005 4:00:10 PM PST by El Gato
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To: TruthNtegrity
Do you know that in America, a programmers career is over at 35, and an engineer's at 40?

Funny, I'm 56 and still employed as an Engineer. I was even doing some fairly heavy technical work until about 18 months ago, when I got transferred to a less technical, but still engineering, position.

124 posted on 12/14/2005 4:02:22 PM PST by El Gato
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To: dfwgator
The interesting thing I learned is that most Indians can only speak to each other in English, since there are so many different native languages in India.

Well that's assuming they need to speak with someone who doesn't speak their dialect, and that they also cannot speak Hindi, which, along with English, is one of the two official languages of India.

125 posted on 12/14/2005 4:05:26 PM PST by El Gato
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To: dennisw
Hispanics did not build America. The Hispanic population was infinitesimal prior to the 1950s. On the mainland USA it was 1% in 1950

They didn't ask that question for the '50 census, but in 1940 the fraction was 1.8% while in 1990 it was 9.0%. I'm sure the '90 and later if I took the time to find the results, under reports the Hispanic fraction, by not counting many of them at all. http://www.census.gov/population/documentation/twps0056/tab01.xls

126 posted on 12/14/2005 4:21:42 PM PST by El Gato
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To: DumpsterDiver
We have to guess (and I don't like that).

I agree with you.

What I'm saying is, from my knowledge, being part of CBP (INS), it's very unlikely that the 1.4 million includes any legitimate visa holders.

The Indians that enter on visa's are more likely to return to their country then to stay here illegally.

127 posted on 12/14/2005 4:28:38 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: Vigilanteman

There are many factors. Programming, even business application programming, is primarily a young man's game. The best people tend to advance into either management or other careers that pay a higher salary with less stress.

This may mean that the older people are less desirable, with obsolescent skills.

Or you can be like me, at age 53, and still be technical. But it is hard to keep learning a new technology every year. Eventually, you can't keep up. Moreover, if you are a mature guy, there is a lot of pressure to help out on the project management side of things, so you can't keep up your technical skills as well as you should.

But I would say people with a high skill level, if they have a good attitude, will always find work at any age. Employers are looking for them.


128 posted on 12/14/2005 5:25:43 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: wtc911

LOL.....


129 posted on 12/14/2005 5:47:18 PM PST by indcons
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To: dalai_gandhi
I would make it "one of the great civilizations"!!

No, I would concur with the earlier post, America IS the greatest civilisation.

And I realise that even though I am not an American.

131 posted on 12/14/2005 7:08:51 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: indcons

Hmmm looks like I missed out on some very interesting threads!


132 posted on 12/14/2005 8:57:35 PM PST by Gengis Khan
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To: sukhoi-30mki; Cronos; CarrotAndStick; razoroccam; Arjun; samsonite; Bombay Bloke; mindfever; ...

Indo-American ping!


133 posted on 12/14/2005 8:59:55 PM PST by Gengis Khan
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To: CarrotAndStick

Most of the Indians who live near me are technical and medical professionals--very hardworking, polite and generous.


134 posted on 12/14/2005 9:14:37 PM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: indcons
"Every East Indian is a legal immigrant........unlike the "process" for illegals, the selection process for legal immigration is lengthy and closely controlled (as it ought to be)."

Yes. And as a matter of fact, immigration for family reasons is somewhat expensive as well as being time consuming. Many pay more taxes than citizens. It must be difficult for legal immigrants to bear so much cost and effort, while so many illegal immigrants are allowed to do it by sneaking in and working for tax-evading employers.
135 posted on 12/14/2005 9:20:08 PM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: familyop
It must be difficult for legal immigrants to bear so much cost and effort, while so many illegal immigrants are allowed to do it by sneaking in and working for tax-evading employers.

Drives me nuts, familyop. Appears that those of us who follow the law are punished by the law while the illegals get "earned citizenship" automatically, whatever that means.
136 posted on 12/14/2005 9:26:18 PM PST by indcons
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To: HostileTerritory; indcons

Actually Indcons is quite right. Most Americans dont seem to understand the difference between Indians and Pakis (and Bangladeshis) just because they all look the same. There is vast disparity in the average income levels, average education levels and crime rate between Hindus (+ Sikhs) and Pakistanis (+ Bangladeshis) almost everywhere including US, UK and Canada. A recent survey in the UK revealed the stark difference. Hindus (+ Sikhs)are 14 times more likely to get jobs as compared to Muslims. Hindus (+ Sikhs) are the richest community in UK (richer than Whites) while Pakistanis (and Bangladeshis) are the poorest. Indians almost always wrongly get clubbed with the Pakis and get subjected to hate crimes for the wrongdoing of Pakis. Sikhs even get killed for wearing turban and looking like Muslims when infact their religion was born to fight the Muslims.


137 posted on 12/14/2005 10:20:37 PM PST by Gengis Khan
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To: One Proud Dad

"The odor of their cultural food on the stove nauseates me."

Indian food is the greatest. You're on crack.


138 posted on 12/14/2005 10:34:56 PM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: wtc911; sheana

seems like Sheana doesn't know if they are Indians or Pakis or Arabs or South - East Asians. Also, this sounds suspiciously like a bachelor pad -- all adult males. And a bachelor pad with 10 males would be noisy -- no matter WHICH community they come from. Thirdly, she's making a generalisation based on this group who's ethnic origins she doesn't know and who seem like the worse example of their group. And then she uses terms like "these people", sheesh, how silly is that?


139 posted on 12/14/2005 11:52:20 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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To: sheana
Considering they spoke NO English....no I never knew exactly where they were from

well then, you were mighty quick to label them Indians, weren't you? For all you know they could have been Caribbeans, South Americans, light-skinned africans, Arabs, southern Mediterraneans, Albanians, Persians, South Asians, South East Asians or someone with a tan -- seems like classifying everyone with a brown skin as "the other"
140 posted on 12/15/2005 12:13:38 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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