Posted on 12/13/2005 11:06:11 AM PST by jmc1969
Homegrown Iraqi insurgent groups are reaching out to the United States in the hope of launching a dialogue that would draw them into the political process and end their 2 1/2-year rebellion, according to U.S. officials and Iraqis close to the insurgency.
Spurred by fears of the growing influence of Iran and encouraged by signals from Washington that the United States will start drawing down troops next year, insurgents who see themselves as fighting for an Iraqi nationalist cause are looking for ways to distance themselves from the religious radicals who have dominated the insurgency, with a view to establishing a foothold in Iraq's political landscape.
"There is a difference between terrorists and the national Iraqi resistance," he said. "Zarqawi's group does nothing but suicide attacks and killing Iraqis. That's not resistance."
Now, 2 1/2 years after the invasion, Iraqi nationalist elements of the insurgency are realizing that simply ejecting American forces will not be enough to secure their interests in a new Iraq that is evolving into a nation with a very different identity to the one they had been fighting to bring back.
According to a former Iraqi corps commander who says he has influence over the insurgency, at one meeting of insurgent groups last summer, several Iraqi insurgent leaders suggested that "Iran is a bigger enemy of Iraq than America," and proposed that the insurgency refocus its priorities toward battling Iran.
"But they were overruled by Zarqawi," said the commander, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "The Iraqis, the national resistance, now have no say."
Al-Zarqawi's influence has steadily been diminished in recent months, by a combination of repeated U.S. military offensives against his strongholds in the western province of Anbar and by the beginnings of a rift between the homegrown Iraqi insurgency and the al-Qaida.
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If they can't stand up to a JORDANIAN and his band of thugs, what chance do they have of being a part of their nation's future? One of these clowns had better sack up and deliver Zarqawi. Maybe then, we can have a meaningful dialogue.
they understand and realize that the Iraqis will use REAL freakin torture on them..they're not scared of US torture, not as long as we have liberal idiots screamin against it..
somehow, I think that condition has been mentioned..
How about this?
If you are against the terrorist and want some say in the political country, put down the weapons and form a party. Sure, they will be one of 70 (I think), but if they can create support from constituents in the country, they can have some political power for the new republic.
Otherwise, let's meet at a quaint little nuetral spot in Cuba to discuss it. I hear GITMO has accomodating facilities this time of year.
They want to run a new Iraqi Department of Torture, Maiming, and Executions?
The insurgents have to be "de-Baathized" first. Something similar to the "de-Nazification" of Germany after WWII.
What was he being investigated for? campaign cash abuse?
WRONG! The "Iraqi National Resistance" are the Sunnis that blow up Shia marketplaces. Zarqawi's group are setting roadside IEDs targeting US convoys.
Don't let these slime push everything off onto Zarqawi.
These assholes are no different then Sadr's thugs or the Badr, the quicker we suck them in the less power Iran will have in Iraq and the less US soldiers will die.
Iran's biggest way they are exerting power in Iraq is though the militias. Without the insurgency Iran's power goes down greatly in Iraq.
America isn't a threat to the Sunnis. If anything, we're the only thing between them and violent retribution by 80% of Iraq's population. Neither the Kurds nor the Shiites will be as gentle as we are, so now's the time to make nice. They know damn well that if we leave, and they're still causing trouble, it will be civil war, and one they're not in much of a position to win.
Zarqawi and some of the extreme Saddamists had managed to convince these losers to go off the cliff with them. These guys are just figuring out were they are being lead and are trying to excape.
Hmm now we know the reason for that recently released Video Tape.
Their house of cards is beginning to come apart at the seams.
Bingo.
I like your premise...
But Dean said...
But Kerry said...
But brother Murtha said...
But Tedward said...
But Pelosi said...
But Reid said...
There's a whole lot of butts in that party.
Yep, kill 'em.
And how.
No, no, no! America is the Great Satan! How dare you suggest Iran is more of a threat. Our MSM will just have to educate these folks to their reality.
Poor Dems.
It's evident they planned the white flag stategy. The problem the have is that they believed their own propaganda arms that said Iraq was a quagmire so they believed they had time to impliment it. Their propaganda units didn't tell them the corner had been turned. We could have told them, but they don't believe conservatives. Now they are stuck trying to desperately withdraw before victory is solidified, and they are out of time. The Iraqi Government is about to be voted in. Forces will be coming home in some numbers, not because Dems demanded it, but because our forces are doing a hell of a job in preparing Iraqi's to defend their country and WILL have the task completed sooner then pessimists believe. I am that confidant in our forces, and the Iraqi's abilities to learn and take control of their country.
The people that have stood firm will get credit. The people that have vacilated or revealed themselves as opposed, will be ridiculed in the history books. This includes the so called "Republicans" like Hagel and so called "conservatives" that wilted, and there were a few in our alternative media. In a way I look forward to the loss of their credibility more than I do the Democrats, since I expect better from our side.
Wowie! Zowie!
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