Posted on 12/13/2005 6:53:28 AM PST by Witch-king of Angmar
As the Monitor noted back in July, alarm bells went off like crazy when Steven Spielberg hired Tony Kushner last year to rewrite the script of a movie about Israels clandestine and lethal response to the massacre of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics.
The Monitor found cause for concern because Kushner is a radical leftist whose views on the Middle East are hardly distinguishable from the hateful screeds found on the most rabidly anti-Israel websites.
(Excerpt) Read more at thejewishpress.com ...
Spielberg has outlived his ability.
He hasn't made a decent movie in a while.
And, I will never understand why Jews tend to be leftists, and support those who support their tormentors. It's so illogical.
Small credit is given for admitting the scene is fictionalized, BUT.......
Jews killing Arabs without context? How about the "context" of the '72 Olympics. It's the basis for the whole movie, dope.
The group assigned to kill the terrorist plotters were required to meet face to face with their targets. The only conversation, however, was to tell the mark why he was being killed, then dispatching him. You can forget the Palestinian Homeland diatribe. The only thing this POS had time to say was "uuuuhhhh" as he died from "lead poisoning."
Unfortunately, for many Jews, being a Jew revolves around being a victim. Once Jews began to defend themselves and win wars, many Jews became uncomfortable with being Jewish. It's almost as if they have a sick feeling of rightousness as a victim. As long as it's always the other Jews being killed, they're OK with it... It also allows them to believe that they're special, as survivors.
It's a rather sick pathology that I've observed in my own family.
Mark
What would you expect from a guy who would replace the guns in the hands of FBI agents with cell phones, in the DVD version of ET? If any movie deserved to be a Charles Bronson flick, it was this one.
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That he has, but let's not forget that he produced "Gremlins".
We were forewarned.
The trailer for this movie has already shown up on TV, and the voiceover clearly states -- as you see an explosion in a high rise building -- that the real story is what happened after Munich. You see young Israeli's looking upset, presumably because they're being told to kill Arabs...one even says something about being a teacher who never dreamed he'd be asked to become an assassin. According to Spielberg, the villain here is Israel.
Collateral damage.
I agree - seen it repeated a number of times both in my 'extended' family and with colleagues.
It seems to as far as lesser evils are concerned, so probably, yes. I was talking with my liberal friend when she waxed all political, so I mentioned a college professor who started talking about "Republic*nts* in his livejournal. "Well, of course I don't support that, but I'm sure he was frustrated." The liberal who was the only one to get physical at a counterprotest I attended? "Frustrated". The infamous "Let's Kill Rumsfeld" ad? "Frustrated".
So yeah, apparently hurt feelings can be used to justify all manner of stuff. Seems awfully childish to me...
This is the first opinion I've encountered (anywhere) that shares my utter ickiness as to Tony Kushner being hired on to redo/offer another script for MUNICH.
I've opined elsewhere about Kushner in relationship to MUNICH's script, but never read same by anyone else.
So, it's encouraging to read that someone else gets the problem here, and especially that a Jewish source would.
The first script was written by Eric Roth (wrote adaptation for "Forest Gump" among other works) and Kushner was said by Speilberg to be hired to redo a script based upon the need for "humanizing" the story.
I could barely believe the counter spin about that, and the selection of who and why...I knew there would be a problem with this project from that moment forward.
has this guy seen the movie? he seems to be quoting others. that kind of thing makes me very nervous and reminds me of those who condemned "Passion of the Christ" without having even seen it.
It's where the right and left come together - commentators on both sides feel free to criticize works they haven't seen based on the politics, presumed or otherwise, of the artists.
It's dumb when they do it, and it's dumb when we do it too.
Sucks if it's you, though.
Our side loses credibility when we treat things like that cavalierly. We can't expect a government to be perfect, but we can expect them to be accountable.
Calling that screwup collateral damage isn't wise, and turns more people off than it turns more people on. I know its a turnoff for me, and for most open minded, fair thinking people.
Has anyone (also) read the persons advising Spielberg about this film? Former Clinton Administration person, among others...
I'll see if I can find the article about it and post a link here if I do, which specifies exactly who is behind this film and being used by Spielberg on this (and other) films as advisors...
Oh, man, talk about a cooler! The early trailers for this looked great, but the more I read about it, the less I want to waste my money on this work of fiction masquerading as fact.
Sounds like another Michael Moore-on hatchet job to me!
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Collateral damage????? Do you even know the story? The hit team murdered an innocent civilian on the streets of a European city. Forget about the true tragedy which put Israel on the same level as the original terrorists (foreign hit team kills innocent), look at the response...Care to calculate the damage done to Israel in the local press over this?
There was a movie made back in the 80's about this.
It was called "Sword of Gideon".
No big-name actors - but it was still well done.
I read a book on the Eichmann trial and the impact it had on Israel. Up to that point, there was a clear division in Israel. Holocaust victims who had moved to Israel were pretty much despised by the other Israelis, many of which had fought for Israel's independence, because they didn't fight back against the Nazis.
I've noticed this in my family of leftist secular Jews as well--it is most disturbing. I prefer to follow the lead of the Jews in Warsaw who fought back. Fighting back is always better!
I caught "Sword of Gideon" on TV. It was terrific.
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