Posted on 12/13/2005 12:47:16 AM PST by Slings and Arrows
You're unclear as to what you mean. Riots are justice? Or was the execution justice?
If it's the latter, then I agree with you (although I take no pleasure in it). If it was the former, I could not disagree with you more.
BTW, you may want to take a peek at #356 in this thread. That's where your comment should be aimed.
That is the funniest thing I read today!!
"So while Jesus did not comment on the death sentence of the thieves on the cross, he did spare the life of the woman."
Jesus was not overturning capital punishement. The Jewish nation had no right to engage in capital punishment as the kingdom was taken away (Book of Daniel)until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. Execution of the woman, therefore, would not be aa act of justice carried out by the over ruling power but a personal vendetta carried out illegally by the men involved.
Capital punishment will be enacted at a level never seen heretofore at the return of Christ.
Romans 13 reaffirms the responsibility of government to reward good and punish evil. And in this responsibility they are directly accountble to God.
During the Millennium, the Son will rule with a rod of iron.
The Rod will be directed against those who hurt others as Williams did.
Well Said, Concerned.
Not arguing, but jealous that we rightly divide the Word of Truth.
Not civil and Christian. But Civil and personal.
The Jews could not legally put the woman to death as they had no civil jurisdiction.
Genesis 9:6 was written by the One know as the Spirit of Christ.
No contraditction; no dilemma.
The Bible's messages are not mixed. But we are commanded to study and rightly divide the word of truth.
ZOT 3:16 - We are your overlords!
" The Lord commands us to love our enemies. You do not speak on behalf of the Almighty"
He is simply verbalizing the actions of the Almighty at the moment of Williams's death.
To love one's enemies on a prsonal level is entirely different from a personal admiration and appreciation, and attraction to an utterly abominable person.
The Scriptures say that the wicked shall be turned into hell and all nations that forget God.
Why would I say riots are justice?
C'mon rdb3.
You sad-sack droopy intellect...everything you've said about me is a false, wild-assed guess on your part. Nowhere have I expressed one moment of sympathy for Tookie - to the contrary, I've said many times, and I'll repeat it again for you Mr. Slow-wit: TOOKIE GOT WHAT HAE DESERVED.
I still do not think it's a cause for celebration as many here do. Now I cordially invite you to have a relapse of your rectally incarcerated cranium.
The "You p." was not an insult but an aborted reply to you. I couldn't stop it fast enough.
I think when you're a bit older and schooled in the affairs of the world you will become as upset as some of us that justice is constantly being abrogated.
you will at some point become thoroughly fed up with scum bags like williams destroying innocent lives in the most bestial fashion. And you will be equally upset by those who become apologists to the Stanley Williams of the world.
You have not yet seen enough crime and the effects of it to really hate it.
Again, there you go with wild-assed assumptions. You are flat-assed wrong.
You have too little sympathy for the victims of crime and too much sympathy for the criminals.
For some reason you cannot bring yourself to hate the crime the way many of us do.
We who are rejoicing that justice has been served are more culpable in your eyes than the predator who carried out the crimes.
You have too little brains.
You make way too many false assumptions.
I hate crime even more than I hate people who celebrate executions. I hate you even more than that.
Knock it off, jerk.
As for those stoning the woman, Christ did not distinguish between what was a civil matter and what was sin.
He didn't say, according to the account, under what civil or governmental role was she to be stoned, but she was to be stoned according to the laws brought forward by Moses on behalf of God.
It is then Jesus states, he who is without sin cast the first stone. There in lies the message: not the law and whether it was just or legal, but rather who can condemn the woman to death because they are sinless.
He later states that the Pharisees are judging according to the flesh (to condemn her life).
If we jump in at Paul, we are many thousands of years late in discerning a biblical teaching on capital punishment. Gen. 9:6 is where we must begin.
The Bible presents a unified teaching acrooss both Testaments about a govenrment's right and responsibility to execute capitl punishment.
Christ was distinguishing a civil matter from personal retribution. This is in line with the Pharisees misinterpretation of the civil injunction of, "an eye for an eye." Christ also had to correct their changing of that into personal retribution.
Both Testaments teach a difference between personal conduct and responsibilities committed into the hand of civil government.
Grow up, Son.
Too many people spend too much time whining about justice and when justice is served they despise it.
Glad I already finished my cornflakes this morning, Brian.
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