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Prof. Questions Gov't Monopoly on Marijuana
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| 12-12-05
Posted on 12/12/2005 5:14:17 PM PST by LouAvul
WASHINGTON - Put this in your pipe and smoke it: A University of Massachusetts professor says the medical marijuana grown by the federal government isn't very good. He wants a permit to cultivate his own pot, saying it will be better for research.
Lyle Craker, a horticulturist who heads the school's medicinal plant program, is challenging the government's 36-year-old monopoly on research marijuana. Craker's suit claims government-grown marijuana lacks the potency medical researchers need to make important breakthroughs.
"The government's marijuana just isn't strong enough," said Richard Doblin, a Craker supporter who heads the Massachusetts-based Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies.
A hearing before a federal administrative judge at the Drug Enforcement Administration got under way Monday and is expected to last all week.
Craker's suit also alleges there isn't enough of the drug freely available for scientists across the country to work with.
The DEA contends that permitting other marijuana growers would lead to greater illegal use of the drug. They have also said that international treaties limit the United States to one marijuana production facility.
A lab at the University of Mississippi is the government's only marijuana growing facility.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: crime; criminaljustice; lawenforcement; leo; marijuana; medicalmarijuana; prison; prisons; wod; wodlist
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posted on
12/12/2005 5:14:18 PM PST
by
LouAvul
To: LouAvul
He wants a permit to cultivate his own pot, saying it will be better for research. Yeah...and a box of Pink Floyd records to go with it, I'm sure.
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posted on
12/12/2005 5:15:25 PM PST
by
Prime Choice
(We are RepubliCANs, not RepubliCAN'Ts.)
To: LouAvul
Craker's suit claims government-grown marijuana lacks the potency medical researchers need to make important breakthroughs.And he would know.
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posted on
12/12/2005 5:16:15 PM PST
by
mhx
To: LouAvul
I didn't know that the government sold marijuana?
To: LouAvul
I cant speak for his intentions but i do agree with the title of the thread. Why does the gov't continue this pointless "war on drugs"? It is not the government's job to legislate what i can and cant put in my body.
To: LouAvul
"The government's marijuana just isn't strong enough," said Richard Doblin, a Craker supporter who heads the Massachusetts-based Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies. But they still make the best LSD.
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posted on
12/12/2005 5:18:42 PM PST
by
KarlInOhio
(In memory of Alvin Owen, Thsai-Shai Yang, Yen-I Yang and Yee Chen Lin:the victims of Tookie Williams)
To: LouAvul
A University of Massachusetts professor says the medical marijuana grown by the federal government isn't very good. It figures -- the government can't even grow a weed right.
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posted on
12/12/2005 5:18:47 PM PST
by
steve-b
(A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
To: Stayingawayfromthedarkside
It doesn't sell it, but it does grow some for its own purposes and for a very small number of people that actually have legal access to it.
If it is like anything else in government, it's undoubtably too expensive, of uniformly low quality, and worthless for its intended purpose. Then again, who would be surprised to find the government say "our research shows pot isn't a good medicine" while only allowing research on the worst stuff it can come up with?
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posted on
12/12/2005 5:20:08 PM PST
by
thoughtomator
(What'ya mean you formatted the cat!?)
To: thoughtomator
To: Stayingawayfromthedarkside
Yeah, the Canadian grows the stuff too... it was so bad that even the people they were giving it to for free discarded it as worthless and went out on the black market to get something effective.
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posted on
12/12/2005 5:25:34 PM PST
by
thoughtomator
(What'ya mean you formatted the cat!?)
To: LouAvul
Socialism!
Reducing the quality of everything it touches.
Even weed!
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posted on
12/12/2005 5:27:36 PM PST
by
JillValentine
(To be compassionate to the cruel is to be cruel to the compassionate.)
To: Stayingawayfromthedarkside
Yep and there are still 4 or 5 people alive, receiving pot from a program that ended some 30 years ago that delivers monthly packages of government grown pre-rolled marijuana cigarettes.
Wonder how many of them have experienced the so-called side effects of MJ the skeptics tout would befall anyone who dares alleviate nausea or pain from long term use?
To: LouAvul
Not a lot of people know that the Federal government has its own rump medical marijuana program, which provides a few patients with marijuana from the Univ. of Mississippi program.
http://radio.weblogs.com/0138970/categories/decrimwatch/2005/02/18.html#a254
Friday, February 18, 2005
Two excessive displays in Springfield
I headed down to the state capital in Illinois yesterday to see a committee hearing on medical marijuana. Unfortunately, the bill did not get voted out of committee, so there it remains. Yet many interesting things took place; Pete at Drug WarRant has a complete report.
To me, the day was typified by the two incidents involving heavy security and seemingly harmless middle-aged white men.
One man was named John Walters; the other was named Irvin Rosenfeld. Both came from out of state to testify at the hearing.
John Walters, of course, is the federal drug czar. This political appointee flew in at taxpayer expense with a full entourage, including several serious-looking security people. The intense security detail was there, I suppose, to protect the czar from the good people of Illinois. Or, perhaps, to give an otherwise bland and unimpressive bureaucrat a sense of authority. Either way, it was unnecessary overkill.
Walters insisted he wasn't there to influence the legislative process - an obviously false cover story contradicted by his very presence (when else does he show up at a state level committee meetings?) and indicative of the sincerity of all his remarks.
Physically isolated by his security team, intellectually isolated by rigid ideology, I wonder if Walters even carries the capacity for recognizing the difference between a truth and a lie.
And, indeed, he and his allies did not want to acknowledge the truth of the other fellow who found himself surrounded by security at the state house.
Irvin Rosenfeld came to Illinois by himself from his home state of Florida and offered an unimpeachable, fact-based presentation on his experience with medical marijuana. One of the seven surviving patients in a federal medical marijuana program, Rosenfeld gets eleven ounces shipped to his pharmacy by Uncle Sam every 25 days. He's been smoking roughly 12 joints a day for 22 years. He and his doctors know that it helps relieve the pain from a rare bone disease called
multiple congenital cartilaginous exostoses.
He believes that the marijuana has not only extended his life, but made his disease bearable for all these years. He's had comprehensive physical examinations which have determined no ill effects from all those years of smoking.
"The government does give marijuana to patients. I'm living proof," he told reporters during a press conference. "I'm also living proof that it works well. I'm also living proof that the government doesn't want to know how well it works. If they want to do research, all they have to do is contact me."
He brought a tin can full of marijuana cigarettes that he picks up at his pharmacy each month and showed them to a room full of astonished state legislators during the hearing. Shortly after his presentation, he found himself surrounded by four burly state security officers. They wanted to ask him some questions, and they didn't want the press to follow, so some other reporters and I were barred from the elevator where he was hustled away.
Fortunately, one of the reporters had a good idea where they were taking him. I followed her and watched as Rosenfeld faced what seemed like an unofficial interrogation over his medicine (asked repeatedly whether Rosenfeld was under arrest or being detained, the security officers would only say, "No comment.").
I thought Rosenfeld was a hero before, but watching his grace under pressure amazed me. He was polite and cooperative with the officers, effectively educating them, while remaining firm about his rights and the limits of their intrusions (he was not going to let the tin can out of his sight, and I don't blame him).
He showed them many documents confirming his situation, and offered phone numbers for his pharmacy as well as a DEA agent with whom he is on friendly terms. Eventually they got confirmation they deemed acceptable and let him go, but not before an officer finally acknowledged that Rosenfeld was being detained, and he was removed from the sight from reporters. He was released shortly after that, and he said such things happen when he speaks up. Why does he continue to do it?
Because, unlike sicker patients who have more trouble with mobility, he can. And because citizens have the right to spread the truth in America.
So it goes in the drug war. If you're a private citizen, obeying the law and exercising clearly established rights, prepare to be hassled by security. If you are a political appointee engaging in legally questionable behavior and spreading false and defamatory insinuation as fact, then you are entitled to the best protection taxpayer money can buy.
In a more sane world, Rosenfeld wouldn't face any scrutiny from law enforcement, but Walters sure would.
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posted on
12/12/2005 5:37:14 PM PST
by
MRMEAN
(Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of congress;but I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
To: mhx
Craker's suit claims government-grown marijuana lacks the potency medical researchers need to make important breakthroughs.
Seriously, if this guy thinks the government grown marijuana is too weak then he is a serious smoker. We're talking about so much that he probably shouldn't be professor of anything..lol :0)
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posted on
12/12/2005 5:37:28 PM PST
by
YoungBlackRepublican
("I imagine a world of love, peace, and no wars. Then attacking it cause they wouldn't expect it!)
To: LouAvul
The DEA ... also said that international treaties limit the United States to one marijuana production facility. WTF? Must have been a slow day at the UN.
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posted on
12/12/2005 5:39:30 PM PST
by
Freedom_no_exceptions
(No actual, intended, or imminent victim = no crime. No exceptions.)
To: curtisgardner
Hmmm. Too many elements in that response to be able to answer them directly.
Enough to say that the government is simply not being sufficiently aggressive in our war on drugs ~ a few druggies here and there get tossed in the clink, but that's simply not sufficient.
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posted on
12/12/2005 5:39:39 PM PST
by
muawiyah
(u)
To: muawiyah
While we're at it, we also need to get serious in our war on guns - we all know how many druggies get a hold of guns, anyway. A few evil gun owners get tossed in the clink, but that's simply not sufficient.
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posted on
12/12/2005 5:45:39 PM PST
by
thoughtomator
(What'ya mean you formatted the cat!?)
To: thoughtomator
Yes, it is time for the government to issue free guns to the public in general so that they have a chance at self-defense.
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posted on
12/12/2005 5:46:42 PM PST
by
muawiyah
(u)
To: muawiyah
And while we're gorging at the public trough, it's also time for the government to issue free drugs to the public in general so they have a chance at getting medicine.
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posted on
12/12/2005 5:48:26 PM PST
by
thoughtomator
(What'ya mean you formatted the cat!?)
To: muawiyah
Enough to say that the government is simply not being sufficiently aggressive in our war on drugs ~ a few druggies here and there get tossed in the clink, but that's simply not sufficient. By "a few druggies" do you mean the hundreds of thousands kidnapped and tossed in cages just for having drugs on them? And you say this is insufficiently aggressive. Would murder, in addition to kidnapping, be your solution - like in Singapore or Indonesia?
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posted on
12/12/2005 5:49:14 PM PST
by
Freedom_no_exceptions
(No actual, intended, or imminent victim = no crime. No exceptions.)
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