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1 posted on 12/12/2005 12:40:16 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

God almighty. If the kid didn't climb he wouldn't have got killed---I wonder if that ever occurred to the parents.

S*** happens.


2 posted on 12/12/2005 12:43:44 PM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen)
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To: SmithL

If this lawsuit had suceeded, the National Parks would have had to end rock climbing due to the liability risk.

Justice is served.


3 posted on 12/12/2005 12:44:20 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: SmithL
Dugan Barr, attorney for the Terbush family, said he like will appeal to the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

Ya know, I think he will, like, lose that appeal.

4 posted on 12/12/2005 12:44:49 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Democrats - With 'Patriots' like them, we don't need foreign enemies.)
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To: SmithL

I say, I say, Judge that was mighty fine. Mighty fine. Now I won't have ta blast ya!

5 posted on 12/12/2005 12:53:59 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: SmithL

Can you imagine the number of zeros on the check a private landholder would have had to write if this had not happened on government land?


6 posted on 12/12/2005 12:54:19 PM PST by YoungCurmudgeon (I slept and dreamed that life was beauty. I woke to find that life is duty.)
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To: SmithL

As a taxpayer, I said: good.


7 posted on 12/12/2005 12:55:23 PM PST by samtheman
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bummer!! i guess i could've sued the coast guard when a wave knocks me off my surf board?!


9 posted on 12/12/2005 1:05:35 PM PST by jay-pee
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To: SmithL

Hot dog! One more frivolous lawsuit kicked in the @$$!


10 posted on 12/12/2005 1:06:58 PM PST by Old Grumpy
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What, are 3 park rangers supposed to go out every morning and glue the rocks down? What's all this "nature" that people keep saying they love to romp in? Nature is dangerous. Deal with it or avoid it by staying in the house all day, where your appliances and slippery bathtubs can kill you instead.


11 posted on 12/12/2005 1:14:44 PM PST by AmericanChef
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To: SmithL
It is so sad for this family to lose their loved one but it sure seems to me that death is one of the risks of rock climbing...
12 posted on 12/12/2005 1:23:44 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: SmithL

October this year I saw several climbers on the walls, of Zion Canyon.

Tour narrators said it takes two days to climb to the top, so they sleep in a hammock suspended from a sheer face.

As a taxpayer, I feel no responsibility for people taking such risks. No amount of skill can offset the danger.

Saw a film about a champion mountain climber who got caught in a blizzard, and lost his feet/legs. His climbing partner got dead.

I have a friend that fell out near Palm Springs, fracturing his pelvis, legs and back. The VA put him together in about two years and about six major surgeries.

Climbing is very dangerous.


13 posted on 12/12/2005 1:23:48 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: SmithL; Carry_Okie


14 posted on 12/12/2005 1:24:53 PM PST by FOG724 (http://nationalgrange.org/legislation/phpBB2/index.php)
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To: SmithL

Growing up in San Jose I spent every minute that I could in Yosemite. That included a total of weeks or months on the walls. Who remembers the fire-fall? One cold evening I extemporaneously narrated a silent travelogue film at the lodge. Badger Pass was my favorite small ski slope. Ansel Adams would walk with me and chat. Royal Robbins, Rodger Bridwell (first free climber) Rollo Shanks, good folks all. Now the Kalifornicators and wannabies have gunched it up. Sic transit gloria mundi. I won't go back.


17 posted on 12/12/2005 1:54:30 PM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: SmithL

As a long-time rock climber, I am perfectly well aware that there is an inevitable element of risk, regardless of how careful I am.

Unless someone recklessly or negligently dislodged the rock that killed him, no one is to blame for the tragedy.

I don't know any climbers who would disagree with me on this. Most of us are unhappy about the way fear of lawsuits has resulted in great climbing areas on both public and private land being closed.


18 posted on 12/12/2005 1:56:22 PM PST by Restorer (We don't really disagree with Islamists. They want to die. We want to kill them.)
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To: SmithL
Dugan Barr, attorney for the Terbush family, said he like will appeal to the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.

So what's it take to get a bozo like this disbarred?

19 posted on 12/12/2005 1:59:52 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: SmithL

People who engage in hazardous activities often die.


20 posted on 12/12/2005 2:00:47 PM PST by ctdonath2
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To: SmithL

Sometimes I really hate the world.

I can't believe this culture we're fostering of "you didn't try hard enough to stop me from killing myself by engaging in obviously dangerous activities."

We're going to have to have official gov't hand-holders to help us cross the street in the near future I'm sure...


23 posted on 12/12/2005 3:20:52 PM PST by Shion
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