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LIVE THREAD - UPDATE: TOOKIE WILLIAMS EXECUTED
Fox news | Dec 12, 2005

Posted on 12/12/2005 10:45:34 AM PST by commish

Gov. Shwarzeneggar expected to make announcement on Tookie Williams Execution Clemency shortly according to Fox News.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
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To: Zhangliqun
I will be praying for you and all of us. I was stuck in a traffic jam on that day in 1992 when they sent us all home from work early and happened to glance out my car window and see lots of men running out of an appliance store with tv's etc in all directions.Didn't know what what going on until I arrived home and turned on the news and saw the looting that was starting.I will be praying for you, take care!
1,101 posted on 12/12/2005 4:51:40 PM PST by Bush gal in LA
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To: Raycpa

Yeah, me and Tookie, moral equivalents. What a knob.


1,102 posted on 12/12/2005 4:54:19 PM PST by fhayek
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To: DoughtyOne

"If the books were ghost written, his nomination was a fraud."

Of course I have no proof that others wrote his books and can only go by what I read. But have read on more than one source that Tookie did not write those books.


1,103 posted on 12/12/2005 4:56:49 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: Zhangliqun

"Please pray for those of us in Los Angeles (and other large CA cities -- and maybe other big cities outside CA too) who have to ride the bus home today and tomorrow."

Arm yourself, and remember: Demographic is destiny.


1,104 posted on 12/12/2005 4:59:25 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: fhayek

Yor are both taking joy in another man's death, no?


1,105 posted on 12/12/2005 5:00:23 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: commish

I wish I lived in California so that I could go to the prison dressed in a devil's costume carrying a sign that says "Welcome Tookie"!


1,106 posted on 12/12/2005 5:00:31 PM PST by reg45
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To: Raycpa

I am taking joy in the fact that justice is served. I am taking joy in the fact that a worthless punk who has forfeited his right to live with civiized human beings will have that right finally revoked. I am taking joy in the fact that a ruthless, bloodthirsty felon will never cause misery to anyone. If you want to lump me in with him, so be it.


1,107 posted on 12/12/2005 5:05:16 PM PST by fhayek
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To: fhayek

Any joy in a death is evil.


1,108 posted on 12/12/2005 5:06:35 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: commish

"There is no need to rehash or second guess the myriad findings of the courts over 24 years of litigation. The possible irregularities in Williams’ trial have been thoroughly and carefully reviewed by the courts, and there is no reason to disturb the judicial decisions that uphold the jury’s decisions that he is guilty of these four murders and should pay with his life....

"....Based on the cumulative weight of the evidence, there is no reason to second guess the jury’s decision of guilt or raise significant doubts or serious reservations about Williams’ convictions and death sentence. He murdered Albert Owens and Yen-I Yang, Yee-Chen Lin and Tsai-Shai Lin in cold blood in two separate incidents that were just weeks apart....

"....Is Williams’ redemption complete and sincere, or is it just a hollow promise? Stanley Williams insists he is innocent, and that he will not and should not apologize or otherwise atone for the murders of the four victims in this case. Without an apology and atonement for these senseless and brutal killings there can be no redemption. In this case, the one thing that would be the clearest indication of complete remorse and full redemption is the one thing Williams will not do."

Not only "no", but "HELL, NO." Way to go, Arnold. I never doubted you.

-Dan

1,109 posted on 12/12/2005 5:12:15 PM PST by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)
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To: Raycpa

FWIW I don't take joy in tookies' death.....I wish he had been a normal dude and today was just getting off shift at Home Depot or wherever. And more importantly, the Yang's and Owen's families were grtting ready for the holidays.

But he isn't and they aren't. And if I could have wasted him via 12 ga. 3" magnum rifled slug just before he pulled the trigger on any of those 4 victims, I would have and not lost any sleep. Period.

I do however take 100% SCHADENFREUDE at the leftists who supported this garbage (and won't be supporting the next murderer to die in January) taking another "Dicky Thon" fastball right in their collective teeth.

FWIW I have a different perspective on the big picture than you I would venture.


1,110 posted on 12/12/2005 5:22:33 PM PST by jaguaretype (Sometimes war IS the answer)
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To: jaguaretype

But I do have my celebratory Romeo Y Julieta and Jose Piedra Habanos puros ready for later tonight as I review the anticipated aftermath.


1,111 posted on 12/12/2005 5:28:27 PM PST by jaguaretype (Sometimes war IS the answer)
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To: defenderSD
I agree with you, it is the ultimate penalty, carried out by an imperfect system which has no recourse to take it back, once delivered.

I guess there are a few more anti-death penaly freepers than I thought. Having said that, I won't shed a tear for him..

1,112 posted on 12/12/2005 5:28:52 PM PST by Paradox (Time to sharpen ole Occam's Razor.)
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To: jaguaretype
FWIW I don't take joy in tookies' death..

Good, many here in freeperville have more joy over this than they do in Christ's birth. I happen to believe that feelings of joy in this are not of God but are evil. Others believe that God's angels will be singing joyful/joyful that a human being has fallen to sin and will not be saved. I think they are wrong and even now, God wants him saved.

1,113 posted on 12/12/2005 5:38:00 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Paradox

Hey Tookie, Seeya.


1,114 posted on 12/12/2005 5:38:14 PM PST by Shady
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To: DoughtyOne
I agree with your assessment, but Tookie was actually nominated around 3-4 times for the Nobel Peace Prize and actually 3 or so times for the Nobel Prize for Literature as well.

When I saw Carter receiving a Nobel, I think the value went down considerable - kinda like counterfeit currency.

1,115 posted on 12/12/2005 5:52:49 PM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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To: editor-surveyor
"He still needs to step down so Tom can run."

That's his only path to redemption in my eyes!!!

1,116 posted on 12/12/2005 5:56:02 PM PST by SierraWasp (That "Nasty, Berating" Wasp that keep stingin SchwartzenRenegger and his Swooners!!!)
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To: Raycpa

I concur. It'd be nice not to have this sad story at all.
The leftists have made it their story to some extent just as they use morons like sheehan to advance their agenda.
And evil is commensurate with modern day leftism in my book.

But I will still have my Cuban Puros in glee at the defeat of the leftist tools.


1,117 posted on 12/12/2005 5:56:32 PM PST by jaguaretype (Sometimes war IS the answer)
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To: samtheman
I was wrong. I thought Arnold would cave.

If Arnold ever had any thoughts of possible clemency, the threats of street violence sealed Tookie's fate.

Even giving the appearance of caving in to mob rule is not an option.

1,118 posted on 12/12/2005 5:57:31 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Shady

did Tookie get his pre-sedative yet , "so he don't be BUGGIN' !!"


1,119 posted on 12/12/2005 5:58:32 PM PST by Dad yer funny
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To: GermanBusiness
"It is interesting that an Austrian guy gets to come to America and kill an American legally"

Arnold is a Kollyfornian now.

1,120 posted on 12/12/2005 6:15:00 PM PST by rogue yam
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