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Pryor's flawed legacy. Comedian's vulgarity made him no role model.
New York Daily News ^
| December 12, 2005
| Stanley Crouch
Posted on 12/12/2005 8:49:58 AM PST by .cnI redruM
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Pryor was funny, but then again, barbarians often are, until you drop your guard and they are ready to kill you.
To: .cnI redruM
Pat Grey had a great parody eulogy on the foul mouth crack head this morning.
To: .cnI redruM
So a real role model would be tookie williams?
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posted on
12/12/2005 8:53:45 AM PST
by
al baby
(Father of the beeber)
To: .cnI redruM
Comedian's vulgarity made him no role model. No one ever said Pryor was a role model, nor did he claim to be.
But he sure was funny.
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posted on
12/12/2005 8:54:31 AM PST
by
Mr. Mojo
To: Mr. Mojo
Stir Crazy still comes to mind...
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posted on
12/12/2005 8:55:18 AM PST
by
Zavien Doombringer
(Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
To: .cnI redruM
I thought I heard on ABC that his grandmother was a Madame and mother a prostitute?
To: .cnI redruM
Comedian's vulgarity made him no role model. Nope, but he was a great comedian.
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posted on
12/12/2005 8:55:37 AM PST
by
Paradox
(Time to sharpen ole Occam's Razor.)
To: .cnI redruM
Geez, imagine what a depraved weasel George Carlin is.
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posted on
12/12/2005 8:56:14 AM PST
by
atomicpossum
(Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
To: .cnI redruM
Since when was he supposed to be a role model? Stupid article.
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posted on
12/12/2005 8:56:33 AM PST
by
rattrap
To: .cnI redruM
Of course, Russell Simmons' Def Comedy Jam is the ultimate coon showhuh?
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posted on
12/12/2005 8:57:03 AM PST
by
wallcrawlr
(Pray for the troops [all the troops here and abroad]: Success....and nothing less!!)
To: al baby
Bill Cosby comes close. Tookie Williams fits in a similar category to 50 Cent and Pryor.
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posted on
12/12/2005 8:57:10 AM PST
by
.cnI redruM
(If you're gonna think, you might as well think big." - Donald Trump)
To: rattrap
nah a couple of ny papers were alluding to that
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posted on
12/12/2005 8:57:32 AM PST
by
italianquaker
(Democrats and media can't win elections at least they can win their phony polls.)
To: .cnI redruM
...the new minstrelsy in which millions of dollars are made by "normalizing" demeaning imagery and misogyny.
&&
Well put.
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posted on
12/12/2005 8:58:09 AM PST
by
Bigg Red
(Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
To: Zavien Doombringer
Stir Crazy still comes to mind... Good movie.
For me, Richard Pryor Live in Concert (1979) was his peak performance.
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posted on
12/12/2005 8:58:28 AM PST
by
Mr. Mojo
To: .cnI redruM
Comedian's vulgarity made him no role model. But it did make him funny as hell. He was a bit over the top at times, but much of Pryor's funniest bits would not have had the same effect without the use of certain words. Especially when is sketch was actually skewering the people who use that language everyday as a standard part of thier speech. When making fun of them, the parody is lost without the same verbage they used.
Pryor's comedy was not for everyone, that is for sure, but he was a genious and should be remembered as one of the best comedians ever.
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posted on
12/12/2005 8:58:41 AM PST
by
commish
(Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
To: rattrap
Since when was he supposed to be a role model?
**
I don't think that the writer is saying that Pryor called himself a role model. He alludes to the comments made by pundits that set Pryor up as one. I heard tv commentators make a few such comments myself.
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posted on
12/12/2005 9:00:43 AM PST
by
Bigg Red
(Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
To: commish
Yeah, no one denies his talents. The question comes when you stop and wonder how much, if any of it, sinks in. I guess it depends on how much an entertainer actual influences how we behave when it's time to take things seriously.
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posted on
12/12/2005 9:01:21 AM PST
by
.cnI redruM
(If you're gonna think, you might as well think big." - Donald Trump)
To: Mr. Mojo
Pryor was HYSTERICAL.
Why would ANYONE use a Comedian as a role-model?
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posted on
12/12/2005 9:01:58 AM PST
by
nuffsenuff
(Don't get stuck on Stupid - General Russ Honore Sept 21, 2005)
To: wallcrawlr
I think Crouch was saying Simmons was encouraging young blacks to live down to inferior racial stereotypes.
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posted on
12/12/2005 9:02:35 AM PST
by
.cnI redruM
(If you're gonna think, you might as well think big." - Donald Trump)
To: .cnI redruM
I'm sorry, but I disagree.
I do abhor society's descent in vulgarity. But Pryor showed us the darkness that exists, that was his whole life, and made it human and compelling with his brilliance.
He was the Charlie Parker of comedy, a man whose dazzling brilliance and virtuosity made me and others laugh more than almost any other comedian.
I am sorry he is gone, I am sorry that the last years of his life were filled with such debility. And I am grateful to have seen his work.
RIP, Richard.
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posted on
12/12/2005 9:03:32 AM PST
by
Maceman
(Fake but accurate -- and now double-sourced)
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