If I lived in Massachusetts, would my gaydar no longer work?
Posted on 12/11/2005 7:29:14 AM PST by Dane
EDITORIALS Gay marriage critics can't toast victory yet Sunday, December 11, 2005
More than 170,000 people have signed an initiative petition to ban gay marriage in Massachusetts.
Supporters needed only 65,825 certified signatures to qualify for the ballot.
We still believe that Massachusetts will one day be recognized and admired as the first state in the nation to allow gay couples to marry. Advertisement
Thousands of gay couples have tied the knot in Massachusetts since the state's highest court legalized gay marriage in 2003. And thousands more will marry before November 2008, the earliest that the anti-gay marriage question can appear on the state ballot. It must first survive a possible legal challenge and be approved by 25 percent of the state's legislators in two consecutive sessions.
By then, supporters won't sound very convincing if they still attempt to argue that gay marriage is a threat to the sanctity of marriage, family values and religious beliefs.
Gay marriage has been such a non-event in Massachusetts since it was legalized that legislators dropped a proposed amendment to the state constitution defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman.
The Massachusetts Family Institute and its supporters declared victory on Wednesday when representatives delivered boxes of petitions to the secretary of state.
"What does that tell us?" Kris Mineau, president of the Family Institute, told supporters at a rally on Beacon Hill. "That the people of Massachusetts have not only spoken, they have shouted. And what are they shouting? 'Let the people vote.'"
For the record, when the people last spoke in a state election, every state legislator who supports gay marriage was returned to Beacon Hill even though he or she had been targeted for defeat by the Massachusetts Family Institute and other anti-gay marriage groups.
By 2008, Massachusetts might well be on its way toward becoming the model for gay marriage in the nation.
And gay marriage won't be a laugh line on the national campaign trail for Gov. W. Mitt Romney if he is running for president and wants to distance himself from the Bay State's liberal reputation with a joke at the state's expense.
Anyway, the irony is such liberal hubris and arrogance from a paper called "The Republican".
Massachusetts, is one messed up place.
The fact that they say thousands of people have gotten married, instead of actually giving a specific number is shady in their part.
If so many gays wanted to get married they would be flocking to Mass. but thats simply not the case.
Yup, Massachusetts will continue as the leading example of bad state government.
Recognized, yes. Admired, no.
California is recognized as the state in which Charlie Manson plied his trade. However, I doubt anyone admires California for that fact.
Now going by the Mass Turnpike, isn't from driving from the west, Springfield, Worcester, and then Boston.
I drove it once visting my brother who lived on Commonwealth Ave. in Boston, right by Boston College and the resovoir some 15 years ago.
Never forget what the toll booth attendant said when paying the toll for driving the whole Mass Turnpike, "welcome to highway robbery".
I'm just curious about something in general.
"And thousands more will marry before November 2008"
How the HELL can something take that long? Why is government so SLOW?
The legislature won't vote on the matter in this state, and they don't want us to vote on it either. They are simply stalling, and hopeful that this will go away.
It won't go away, and everybody knows it. Gay marriage has zero chance of voter approval, and so in the end, this measure will NOT be on any ballot. Not in 2008, not ever, as things currently are arranged in Massachusetts.
> I have lived here for 11 years and this is one of the reasons I will be leaving.
Stay, why don't you, and fight the good fight. Living in a Red state is much too easy.
So the issue is going on the ballot. I predict the ban gets passed and the supreme court of MA declares the MA constitution unconstitutional and removes the new amendment from it.
Picture if you will standing in front of a brick wall. Now imagine you are trying to explain your point of view to said wall. This is what talking to these people is like.
Pro marriage people will NEVER change what her majesty Marshall unconstitutionally imposed on the state. But thanks to her majesty, other states have rescused themselves from the same fate with state constitutional amendments.
If I lived in Massachusetts, would my gaydar no longer work?
-By then, supporters won't sound very convincing if they still attempt to argue that gay marriage is a threat to the sanctity of marriage, family values and religious beliefs.-
Ugh! These things take TIME. Over TIME these problems will be felt. Lefties are so shallow-minded! Unbelievable! How long did it take for easy sex, easy divorce, and abortion to rear their ugly heads?? Cripes, these people are all born yesterday - incredibly ignorant.
If it gets on the ballot it will be approved, but the commissars will gut it on the hill.
> Picture if you will standing in front of a brick wall. Now imagine you are trying to explain your point of view to said wall.
I find that it's even more frustrating that that...were I to speak unguardedly among the wrong people, I could get fired.
At least you won't have to be forever explaining why Massachusetts keeps reelecting BFT :)
I didn't even mention that the natives are among the rudest people I have ever come across.
Incredibly rude natives (except for the conservatives I met), Northeastern snobbiness, real life retribution for being a conservative, everyone stuck on you are a liberal by default mode, liberals that are a parody of themselves, brick wall liberals, gay marriage, and of course, the fake democracy of the state that started the American revolution. I left exactly one year after gay marriage started when I was all done with my finals. Coincedence but definitely ironic. It's a pretty state and a great place to get an education (MIT all the way!!!), but I sure as heck didnt want to stay.
I'm all for fighting the good fight, but sometimes you got to walk away from a losing cause that's like bashing your head up against the wall. Over and over.
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