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(79% of) Texans back police help on immigration law (Republican, Democrat, white, black, hispanic)
Houston Chronicle ^ | December 11, 2005 | EDWARD HEGSTROM

Posted on 12/11/2005 1:12:33 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Three out of four Texans think local police should help enforce immigration law, and nearly half think citizen border patrols such as the Minutemen are a good thing, according to a new statewide poll.

The Scripps Howard Texas Poll also found that 79 percent of state residents think the U.S. government is not doing enough to stop "unauthorized immigration."

But exactly half of those polled said they support a program that would allow illegal immigrants to stay temporarily if they have a job no one else wants. President Bush has proposed a guest-worker plan along those lines, and Congress is expected to take up the issue next year.

"Texans are very concerned about illegal immigration, but they're divided on how to resolve it," pollster Ty Meighan said.

The poll of 1,000 adult Texans was taken from Nov. 14 to Nov. 30 and has a 3 percentage point margin of error.

Meighan said the poll clearly shows state residents want local police checking immigration papers.

"Texans believe the police should be there to enforce the laws, whether it be the traffic laws or the immigration laws," he said.

The Houston Police Department has a policy preventing officers from enforcing immigration law.

City Councilman Mark Ellis has introduced a resolution that would require the police and other city institutions to check immigration papers. Ellis' resolution drew heated debate in a council meeting last week. Even Ellis said he was surprised to hear that 75 percent of Texans support having police help enforce immigration law, compared with 19 percent who oppose it.

"The public clearly feels municipal, state and federal governments should be working together on immigration," said Ellis, who noted that he became concerned about the issue when an illegal immigrant without a driver's license rear-ended his car earlier this year. The Houston police officer who arrived to investigate told Ellis he couldn't arrest the immigrant for being in the country illegally.

But immigration advocates suggest the question may have been misleading because those polled were asked whether they think local and state police should "help" federal officials enforce immigration law.

"I might answer yes to that question," said City Councilman Gordon Quan, who opposes Ellis on the issue. Though HPD policy forbids street officers from asking about immigration status, officers are permitted to assist federal immigration officials if they have prior approval, Quan noted.

"There's a misperception that we do not help federal officials," he said.

The poll found that even a majority of Hispanics and Democrats support police helping in immigration enforcement. A total of 59 percent of Hispanics answered yes, compared with 77 percent of whites and 73 percent of blacks.

The poll also found that 47 percent of Texans favor and 49 oppose having citizens patrol the border. The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, an Arizona group, mounted patrols on the Texas border and inland in October.

"You can't get much more divided than Texans are on this issue," Meighan said.

Whites and Republicans were far more likely to support the Minutemen. Among whites, 51 percent supported having civilians patrol the border. Only 25 percent of Hispanics and 37 percent of blacks said they approve of civilian patrols.

Also, 60 percent of Republicans supported the Minutemen, compared with 31 percent of Democrats and 44 percent of independents.

edward.hegstrom@chron.com


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; borders; bush; governorperry; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; lawenforcement; minutemen; nationalsecurity; police; presidentbush; rickperry; texas
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***The poll found that even a majority of Hispanics and Democrats support police helping in immigration enforcement. A total of 59 percent of Hispanics answered yes, compared with 77 percent of whites and 73 percent of blacks. ***
1 posted on 12/11/2005 1:12:36 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
75 percent of Texans support having police help enforce immigration law,

Why is this a question? Where I come from, Police take an oath to enforce the law and defend the constitution. Its not limited to state or local law, they are to enforce all laws.

2 posted on 12/11/2005 1:20:57 AM PST by adamsjas
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Let me get this straight. You mean they want law enforcement officers to actually enforce the law.Gee, what a unique idea. Image hosted by TinyPic.com
3 posted on 12/11/2005 1:22:52 AM PST by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And 21% of them........????


4 posted on 12/11/2005 1:29:21 AM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Excellent!
5 posted on 12/11/2005 1:32:21 AM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

But exactly half of those polled said they support a program that would allow illegal immigrants to stay temporarily if they have a job no one else wants.
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Good! Why only half? And there are many, many, jobs that Americans don't want. btw, I'm not being sarcastic:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1503496/posts#71

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1237232/posts?q=1&&page=190#190


6 posted on 12/11/2005 1:38:16 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/french_riots.htm)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"You can't get much more divided than Texans are on this issue," Meighan said

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

7 posted on 12/11/2005 1:54:27 AM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: traviskicks

It's a good start.


8 posted on 12/11/2005 1:54:47 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: adamsjas; Old Seadog
Stricter policy on undocumented immigrants asked ***Houston residents asked a divided City Council Tuesday to end an official city policy that forbids local police from rounding up undocumented immigrants for being in the country illegally.

Slightly more than a dozen people appeared before the council in support of Councilman Mark Ellis' proposal to overturn the policy, which prevents officers from asking about someone's citizenship status or detaining someone for being in the country illegally.

Houston is not officially a so-called "sanctuary city," since the policy is not codified in a city ordinance. Ellis' proposal would rescind the general order that governs the policy and replace it with a city ordinance that would require officers to enforce federal immigration laws.

"Houston has never passed a resolution at City Hall designating the city as a sanctuary city," Ellis acknowledged. "But (the general order) creates the appearance of a sanctuary city." ........***

9 posted on 12/11/2005 1:57:45 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: GeronL

Yeah! Who taught them math?


10 posted on 12/11/2005 1:58:23 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

79%.... it's almost a deadheat... lol


11 posted on 12/11/2005 1:59:35 AM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: GeronL
79%.... it's almost a deadheat... lol

Their usual deceptive sampling didn't help them this time.

12 posted on 12/11/2005 2:09:18 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I have been waiting to see people address this missing part of the puzzle. "The public clearly feels municipal, state and federal governments should be working together on immigration."


13 posted on 12/11/2005 2:26:13 AM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ClaireSolt

Yes! They do.

As noted in this article, politicians are "surprised," while immigration advocates believe the public is confused by the wording of such questions.

The public isn't confused and politicans shouldn't be surprised.


14 posted on 12/11/2005 2:33:03 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
But exactly half of those polled said they support a program that would allow illegal immigrants aliens to stay temporarily indefinitely if they have a job no one else wants that pays low wages. President Bush has proposed a guest-worker plan along those lines that provides cheap labor for his campaign contributors, and Congress is expected to take up postpone dealing with the issue next year for as long as they can.
15 posted on 12/11/2005 2:56:41 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: gubamyster

ping


16 posted on 12/11/2005 2:57:19 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The people who came in earlier times were good folks, but the people coming now are purely scum
17 posted on 12/11/2005 3:21:21 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

verbatim.


18 posted on 12/11/2005 5:33:16 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thats a good one....

80% of 'we the people' want the illegal invasion of America
stopped

But what percent of our so called leaders want this? 2% ?

This isn't a 'Dee Mockracy ..it's a cheer'ocracy'


19 posted on 12/11/2005 7:31:16 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks & squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

PING


20 posted on 12/11/2005 10:05:30 AM PST by gubamyster
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