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I don't know if the link to the picture works, but it's a long, cardboard freight box coming out of plane - no distinction or honor at all.

This just doesn't sit right with me.

1 posted on 12/10/2005 9:11:41 AM PST by countreegurl
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To: countreegurl
Here is the pic you mentioned:


2 posted on 12/10/2005 9:13:43 AM PST by indcons (Merry Christmas and happy holidays, FRiends)
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To: countreegurl

How does this square with the supposedly bootleg pics we've seen with the bodies arriving at Dover in flag-draped coffins?


3 posted on 12/10/2005 9:14:53 AM PST by GoBucks2002
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Dead heroes are supposed to come home with their coffins draped with the American flag -- greeted by a color guard.

I strongly suspect this did not actually happen in, say, World War II.

However, I think people's expectations have been colored by well-publicized ceremonies of small numbers killed in various "little wars" being unloaded from aircraft.

4 posted on 12/10/2005 9:15:10 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: countreegurl

I guess we could strap them into the seats in first class.


5 posted on 12/10/2005 9:16:03 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: countreegurl

I think this story needs some serious fact checking, and an official response from the DOD. This "story" doesn't sit right with me.


6 posted on 12/10/2005 9:18:00 AM PST by SAMS (Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: countreegurl

Your source does not sit right with me.


8 posted on 12/10/2005 9:19:27 AM PST by verity (The MSM is a National disgrace.)
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To: countreegurl

http://images.ibsys.com/2005/1210/5505031_240X180.jpg

If the box is not marked, then how do you know a body is in it? Nasty biased speculation?


9 posted on 12/10/2005 9:20:29 AM PST by nmh ( Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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Recently there was a story posted here about a guy who's on a bereavement team. It gave great detail on how the soldiers' coffins are loaded, checked, traveled with, met, etc. I believe that's how it's done. And yes, the coffins travel in the luggage section, just like your Uncle Joe who died in LA and wants to be buried in Boston.

More info needs to be found about this.
10 posted on 12/10/2005 9:20:48 AM PST by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves!)
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To: countreegurl

BTW, your link doesn't work either.


11 posted on 12/10/2005 9:21:37 AM PST by nmh ( Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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But in reality, many are arriving as freight on commercial airliners -- stuffed in the belly of a plane with suitcases and other cargo.

That's standard procedure for civilians. That's how it was done for my grandfather.

12 posted on 12/10/2005 9:22:58 AM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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Well... families fly deceased relatives this way all the time. I don't see it as disrespectful, but inevitable and practical. There are likely many connections and different legs when a soldier's body is sent home to wherever the family wants them.


13 posted on 12/10/2005 9:23:05 AM PST by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1000 knives and counting!)
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But in reality, many are arriving as freight on commercial airliners -- stuffed in the belly of a plane with suitcases and other cargo.

Depends on what branch of the military and in which city one is talking about.

Marine Air Control Squadron 23, MACS-23, in Denver sees to it that Marines returning to Colorado for burial are taken care of and rendered all the military honors they are due.

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When 2nd Lt. Jim Cathey's body arrived at the Reno Airport, Marines climbed into the cargo hold of the plane and draped the flag over his casket as passengers watched the family gather on the tarmac. During the arrival of another Marine's casket last year at Denver International Airport, Major Steve Beck described the scene as one of the most powerful in the process: "See the people in the windows? They'll sit right there in the plane, watching those Marines. You gotta wonder what's going through their minds, knowing that they're on the plane that brought him home," he said. "They're going to remember being on that plane for the rest of their lives. They're going to remember bringing that Marine home. And they should."

14 posted on 12/10/2005 9:24:01 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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Many many people have loved ones shipped for burial, on freight, on airliners, every day. While we'd all like to think there is nothing routine about our particular loved one... for these companies, shipping the deceased very much is normal and they are handled with care every day.


17 posted on 12/10/2005 9:26:50 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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It's a Bogus story, The Airlines NEVER haul the dead as "freight".

Even the military's.

All Bodies of American servicemen and women are transported according to custom and with an honor guard on military aircraft, unless the family denys such treatment.


21 posted on 12/10/2005 9:28:15 AM PST by usmcobra (30 years since I first celebrated The Marine Corps Birthday as a Marine)
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http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/p638_2.pdf

This is the Army Regulation pertaining to the disposition of remains.

25 posted on 12/10/2005 9:33:06 AM PST by verity (The MSM is a National disgrace.)
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Maybe someone can help me out if this doesn't work, but anyways - this is Matthews guest book from his service. He seemed like a great guy and a real hero.

http://www.legacy.com/theadvocate/Guestbook.asp?PersonID=15693292


29 posted on 12/10/2005 9:39:16 AM PST by countreegurl
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The container (sorry; not sure what to call it) has to travel in the freight section, doesn't it? Where else could it be on a passenger plane? I'm surprised it doesn't have a flag affixed to it - I thought they all did during transport. Maybe the source is exaggerating this.


36 posted on 12/10/2005 9:51:30 AM PST by hsalaw
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John and Stacey Holley, who were both in the Army, made some calls, and with the help of U.S. Sen. Barbara Boxer, Matthew was greeted with honor and respect.

Dollars to donuts this traitor Boxer uses this as a political ploy to bash the administration as being uncaring.

I would not put it pass her. Liberals do not have any shame. Hopefully she can keep her pie hole shut for the sake of the family

43 posted on 12/10/2005 10:02:20 AM PST by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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bump


47 posted on 12/10/2005 10:07:06 AM PST by VOA
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I can say how a body is handled if killed aboard a ship. The Medical Officer or corpsman does what preservation can be done at that time & places the remains in a body bag. The body bag with remains is taken to one of the ships walk in food coolers for storage.

A 24/7 watch is then placed on that cooler and a Snipe {Refrigeration Mechanic} will remain outside the cooler until conditions allow for the body to be flown off the ship. The body to be flown off the ship IIRC will be in a container simuliar to a missle crate. From that point on I don't know.

48 posted on 12/10/2005 10:09:24 AM PST by cva66snipe
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