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Fox's Phillips: No DNA, No Tookie Execution - DNA Proved Innocent 'a Number' of People Executed
Fox & Friends Weekend/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 12/10/2005 5:04:37 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

by Mark Finkelstein

December 10, 2005 - 07:29.

No DNA evidence, no execution of Tookie Williams. That's the standard Fox & Friends Weekend host Julian Phillips established this morning. As he put it:

"The issue for me is, is he guilty or is he not? He still maintains his innocence. If they can prove through DNA and other stuff, fine."

To bolster his case, Phillips asserted:

"There have been a number of cases where people on death row have been executed and it's later found out through DNA evidence that they are innocent."

Oh really? It's not surprising that Phillips didn't cite any examples to support his contention. Even avid death-penalty opponents been unable to point to a single unequivocal case of a man being executed who was later proved innocent by DNA.

Take this article http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10002589/ on the death penalty from MSNBC, which no one would excuse of being a mouthpiece for the hang-em-high crowd:

"There is no official proof an innocent person has been executed."

Phillips' co-host Page Hopkins provided a strong counter-balance, expressing skepticism about Williams' rehabilitation and adding:

"Why is he being singled out when less-illustrious death row inmates are not? Because they don't have Hollywood rallying around them, a movie has not been made about their lives."

Those wanting to review the overwhelming evidence against Williams might wish to have a look at this article http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_3276316 from the Long Beach Press Telegram.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: deathpenalty; foxnews; julianphillips; stanleywilliams; tookie
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1 posted on 12/10/2005 5:04:38 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Fox & Friends Weekend ping to the Today Show ping list.


2 posted on 12/10/2005 5:05:41 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Julian has been watching a little too much CSI. Not every murder case involves DNA evidence.


3 posted on 12/10/2005 5:06:20 AM PST by writmeister
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Do I have to stand in line to laugh at this?


4 posted on 12/10/2005 5:08:14 AM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Paige, Kiran & Julian.....


5 posted on 12/10/2005 5:09:01 AM PST by texianyankee
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Memo to Julian: Bullets don't leave DNA.


6 posted on 12/10/2005 5:09:02 AM PST by Carolinamom
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

To these unschooled imbeciles, DNA is some kind of magic talisman for proving innocence or guilt.


7 posted on 12/10/2005 5:09:36 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: writmeister
True. DNA evidence is only part of what's in a case to convict a suspect. We've always been able to convict the guilty long before DNA came along as a forensic tool. There is NO evidence of a single innocent person being put to death in the United States. While on the other hand, tens of thousands of innocent people have been murdered. Somehow, you never hear the murderer-loving crowd demand an end to the shedding of innocent blood. I'd treat their motives with a good deal of skepticism.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

8 posted on 12/10/2005 5:09:59 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
He still maintains his innocence.

The death row con who admits his guilt and asks for justice to be done is a rare thing. For most of them, sociopaths, neanderthals, and recidivists, it's 'eff em. Keep 'em guessing till the end and afterwards'.

9 posted on 12/10/2005 5:10:18 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
So by that reasoning we would never execute a "tidy" serial killer.

The liberal mind is a terrible thing to waste.

10 posted on 12/10/2005 5:11:14 AM PST by evad
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Wish he'd change his name to Julianne and get it over with


11 posted on 12/10/2005 5:11:16 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: writmeister
yeah.....positive DNA evidence...California....OJ Simpson....justice...

Whats wrong with this picture
12 posted on 12/10/2005 5:12:23 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" R. A. Heinlein)
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To: writmeister

And DNA is not always definitive. The Discovery Channel had a show on folks who have two different sets of DNA in their bodies because they are a fusion of fraternal twins. One woman had to have an officer of the court attend the birth of her child to proved that she was actually the mother, even though the DNA say she wasn't! When samples of another woman's blood was sent to a British crime lab, they thought it was from two different people!


13 posted on 12/10/2005 5:14:14 AM PST by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: Rummyfan

When Page pointed out that people on death row always maintain there innocence, Phillips responded that it wasn't true and that some people admit their guilt and ask to die. Perhaps that should be Julian's new standard for execution!


14 posted on 12/10/2005 5:14:43 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Julian is a nitwit.


15 posted on 12/10/2005 5:15:05 AM PST by joonbug
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To: coconutt2000
"Do I have to stand in line to laugh at this?"


Nope. You can have my spot. ;)





16 posted on 12/10/2005 5:15:25 AM PST by G.Mason (Others have died for my freedom; now this is my mark ... Marine Corporal Jeffrey Starr, KIA 04-30-05)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Dna?? I think he was supposed to have shot them. I don't think he is accused of having sex with them.


17 posted on 12/10/2005 5:15:38 AM PST by zipp_city
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To: Rummyfan

He still maintains his innocence



Don't they all?


18 posted on 12/10/2005 5:15:43 AM PST by WKB (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance.. then Baffle them with BS)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
They should just ignore the fact that there were witnesses, ballistics evidence, and the fact gun used was purchased by tookie.
19 posted on 12/10/2005 5:16:00 AM PST by Dave278
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To: texianyankee
and I noticed today that Kiran is obviously preggers!

Speaking of maternity, I've wondered if Linda Vester will ever be back to Dayside....they no longer mention her at all, and it seems to be a regular gig for Juliet and Mikey.

20 posted on 12/10/2005 5:16:17 AM PST by ErnBatavia (403-3)
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