In Memory of Broadsword!
Posted on 12/09/2005 2:52:39 PM PST by Mount Athos
THE eldest of four Pakistani gang rapist brothers has admitted lying at trial and apologised to his victims but said he thought he had a right to rape the "promiscuous" teenage girls.
MSK, 27, told the NSW Supreme Court yesterday that this was because the girls did not wear headscarves, were drinking alcohol and were unaccompanied when they went to his Ashfield home. MSK also blamed his intoxication, "cultural beliefs" and an undiagnosed mental disorder.
He and his brothers MAK, 25, MRK, 21, and MMK, 19 - who cannot be named for legal reasons - are serving between 10 and 22 years for raping two girls in 2002. All except MRK are yet to be sentenced for several other rapes.
Yesterday evidence was being heard on a sentence for MSK for the rapes of two more girls, TW, then 14, and CH, then 13. He admitted that some of the evidence he had given at an earlier trial was fabricated, particularly that he had had consensual sex with TW and that she had coaxed him.
"It was a pretty big untruth when you said that it was consensual sex, wasn't it?" asked the Crown prosecutor, Ken McKay.
"Yes," he replied.
You chose to lie about that, correct? - Yes.
During a long apology to TW, who was in court, he stopped mid-sentence to reprimand her.
"I wish to say this to [TW], that at the time when I commit these offences I come from such a background which led me to - don't shake your head, I'm telling you something - I say now that I hurt you and I'm extremely, extremely apologetic to you and I'm, I wish to say one thing more.
"I'm serving 22 years … I'm just requesting to you that you one day may come that you realise that the person who assaulted me is in prison … and I should forgive him. I'm asking for your forgiveness." He said it was only now, since he had gained a "better understanding of Australian culture", that he knew the rapes were wrong.
He arrived in Sydney for the ninth and final time four days before committing several rapes over six months. He had planned to study medicine.
He agreed he knew the girls did not want to have sex. "[TW] said no but I go ahead with it because I believe that at the time I commit these offences, I believe that she was promiscuous …" he said. "She don't know us, I don't know her, like she was not related to us and she was not wearing any purdah … like she was not … covered her face, she was not wearing any headscarf and she started drinking with us and she was singing.
"First off, I was actually, I was not taking my medication so I was under the influence of voices and secondly I believe at the time when I commit these offences that she had no right to say no."
Mr McKay said the voices excuse was a last-ditch strategy to avoid justice. "You wanted to hurt and terrorise these girls and you did that. You used acts of sexual intercourse on them."
The matter was adjourned until next Friday.
Yeah, well until the "peaceful" ones learn to dominate and control those that are a "little over the top," I think the baby needs to get dispensed with the bathwater.
instantgratification - is that the opposite to being prepared to wait until the End Time for the mahdi...hmmmm?
Answer me this if you please; how do you feel about the islamic cleric who stated 'we believe in the establishment of sharia worldwide even if it means the death of all human beings'
1. Surprised?
2. Shocked and dismayed.
3. Horrified?
4. None of the above...
Read the news from England, Holland, france and tell me who is committing the horrors over there. Wouldn't be muslims would it?
"Men" wouldn't. The guys that do this are pigs! Plain oinkers!
Islamophobe! Bigot! Racist! Nazi! Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk!
Seriously, anymore emotionally manipulative words for us to throw around here like the lunatic left?
I always thought a phobia was based on irrational fear of something... What about all those muslims who are oppressed by islam and fear islam too. Perhaps there are more muslim "islamophobes" than infidel "islamophobes."
If the former are not allowed to speak out because of islamic law, then who will?
Your post echos a published law, but the reality with which I speak is that the arrest rate for that particular crime is beyond rare.
Testimonies of Those Who Left Islam
I have dedicated this section to stories of people who have become disillusioned with Islam and have left it. Naturally their ID has been kept in secret and in some cases I have changed the names. This is necessary to protect them from becoming the target of Islamic persecution. The penalty of apostasy in Islam is death. Here is my own testimony.
Why I Left Islam!
http://www.faithfreedom.org/testimonials.htm
Actually Islam is a mental illness and unfortunately 1/6 of the world has it.
Bullshit.
From Post #41:
Five days before 9/11, the Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet reported that 65% of the country's rapes were committed by "non-Western" immigrants -- a category which, in Norway, is almost wholly Muslim."Three quarters of rapes are carried out by non-Danes,"
says Peter Skaarup, chairman of the People's Party, a member of the governing coalition.
Considering that the muslims in those countries make up less than 5% of the population, they commit a lot of rape. But that's just their culture, right? Western civilization has to accomodate them, right? We just have to understand them, right?
I understand that we need to destroy islam. The longer we delay, the harder it's going to be.
Step right up ladies and gentlemen. Pull back the curtain and you will see just what exactly a Muslim defines "Peace" as.
They've declared war on us. When will folks understand this ?
"instantgratification" - Do you consider Ibn Waraq to be an "islamophobe?"
How about Ayaan Hirsi Ali? Is she an "islamophobe" too?
OR what about the many muslims that have to hide, in fear for their lives, when they want to convert? Are they "islamophobes" too?
Uhhhm ok..
First off, you're assuming that because Solomon's actions were recorded in the Torah/Bible O.T. that it equates with G_d approving of them. It does not.
Nor does your citing of Deuteronomy 20 and 21 indicate a broadly accepted practice which extended across many generations and encompassed the wanderings of the children of Israel through many lands outside their own.
Secondly, anyone trained in Biblical Hermeneutics - which I am, and you obviously are not, would be familiar enough with the requisites of Scriptural interpretation - exegesis and eisegesis - to know the first rule which is that {contextually} Scripture interprets scripture.
In other words the broader context, historical, cultural, etc... imposes strictures and limitations upon the individual passages being examines, and how much lattitude is allowed in extending a broad meaning or principle from an excerpt.
As well, the uniqueness of the passage must be considered to get an overall guiding notion of the literary context Was it a one-time occurrence, something permitted or even exhorted by laws of the land, was it the outcome of the sinful leadership of a wicked King, or a lifestyle he lived.
That is just a sampling of the range of questions which ought rightly to be asked. Your whole point fails for the lack of support from a thorough scholarly examination, and it cannot be shored up.
In trying to compare the death cult of islam to Judaism, from which it is derivative bastard child, utterly twisted, one must look to the fact that islam has made a wholesale effort to revise key foundational elements of the religion.
Christianity by contrast, has revised nothing major from the Judaic history. They simply refer to the Torah as the Old testament. Those who have sought to do otherwise are rightly reviled as heretics.
Islam also seeks to revise the history of Christianity, insisting that Christ was not the Son of G_d/Son of Man, but a prophet - and a lesser prophet than muhammad. Not only that, but the muhammadans assert that Christians are heretics and infidels for believing that the Almighty would allow men to kill one of His prophets.
Lastly, and most importantly - muhammad the delusional camel-driving, caravan marauding madman did an evil in the sight of civilised peoples of all other major world religions - he pressured Abu Bakr {who became the second Caliph after muhammad} into surrendering his daughter into his hands and house for marriage.
Her name was Aisha, she was six years old or less according to the most reliable evidence, and muhammad consummated with her when she was nine lunar years of age. That is calculated in 28.5 day months, and works out to 8 years 8 months by our reckoning.
mo' was a murderous, greedy, lusty, paedophiliac freak, with his justification mechanism constantly in highest gear to serve his perversion du jour.
A.A.C.
"The Final Crusade has commenced - destroy a megalomaniacal follower of the paedophile false prophet today!"
Islam is an insane murder (and rape) cult.
Dispite islam... not because of it. Thats the difference.
In case you missed it, democracy (the elections you refer to) and the laws of man over the laws of allah, is not an islamic concept either.
In Memory of Broadsword!
Ping!
but said he thought he had a right to rape the "promiscuous" teenage girls.
---Unreal....
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