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I've been reluctant to use the word treason, but I just don't what else to call it anymore.
1 posted on 12/08/2005 7:56:08 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Let me help you: It's treason.


2 posted on 12/08/2005 7:56:36 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: smoothsailing

In this current world of "dark is light and light is dark," to the Democrats it's considered "patriotism."


3 posted on 12/08/2005 8:00:21 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: smoothsailing

I'm waiting for the inevitable thread hijacking attempt.


5 posted on 12/08/2005 8:01:19 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Those Who Want to Impeach President Bush Are the Party of Treason.)
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To: smoothsailing

Not treason but sedition


6 posted on 12/08/2005 8:01:53 PM PST by RocketJsqurl
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To: smoothsailing
How do we distinguish between free speech and treason? Where do we draw the line?

Thomas Jefferson knew the difference. And he would have shot dead some of these people for their treasonous behavior.

9 posted on 12/08/2005 8:04:10 PM PST by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: smoothsailing
Here's how to deal with them


Mark my words, folks, if the Democrats keep this up it's going to blow up in their
face, bigtime.

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Tim, we should follow the lead of Congressman John Murtha, the man who many
of us simply refer to as "the Hawk", who has put forth a plan to make America
safer, to make our military stronger and who will do or say anything to take down
a sitting president in a time of war. A war that is unwinnable, I might add, and for
which the president doesn't have a plan for victory.

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Yes, Karl, I'm watching her on TV right now and I've just about had enough.
Take her out. Now.

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Boom.

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That was mighty fine work, Karl, mighty fine! Ha ha- but now it looks as though
Ol' Mullah Dean is shooting off his big nasty mouth again...

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The very idea that we're going to win the war in Iraq is as wrong as apple pie...

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You know what to do , Karl.

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I mean, don't you just hate apple pie?

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It's not working! Hmmm... that's it with the broccoli. What to do? What to do?

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Get me Dick Cheney!

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Yes! Dick Cheney!.........................Dick, do you read me? It's me, Karl!

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Karl? You're coming in a little fuzzy. Hold on a minute... Now where did I put
that contraption? Oh yes, I remember...

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Ok, Karl, you're coming in loud and clear. What seems to be the problem? Yes.
Yes. Uh huh. I see. Alright, Karl, Routine 21, on three! One, two...

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At the Copa ,Hey! Copacabana!
The hottest spot north of Havana!

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I'm too sexy for my shirt- too sexy for my shirt
So sexy it hurts

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Good work! Both of you!

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Nice working with you again, Dick. Dick?................... Where'd he go?

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To infinity and beyoooooooond!!

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Greetings friend and conversationalists, all across the fruited plain. Well, well,
well, has El Rushbo ever got a See I Told Ya So for you...

11 posted on 12/08/2005 8:05:03 PM PST by Roscoe Karns
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To: smoothsailing

Yes, it's treason. There's no doubt that they are encouraging the enemy and leading him to believe that if he just blows up enough Iraqi civilians and kills enough American troops, that will bring him a victory.

It's also treason to leak important secrets to the press. And it's treason to publish them. And it's treason to go abroad and attack your country as evil and spread lies about it.

Clinton committed treason when he organized antiwar rallies in London on the taxpayer's dollar, after dodging the draft. Kerry committed treason when he went to Paris to encourage the North Vietnamese in time of war. And now they are all committing treason again. Selling their country for political power.

One reason we were surprised by 9/11 was because clinton had committed treason by selling top nuclear and ICBM missile secrets to China for cash, and he didn't want the FBI investigating him. So he gave orders that the FBI should not talk to the CIA or to military intelligence.


12 posted on 12/08/2005 8:05:09 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: smoothsailing

Sh!t! Where have you been? The Demonrats went teasonous back in the 60's.

The problem is, the evil spawn of Saul Alinsky have been very clever in defining the terms of the debate and, this, coupled with liguini-spined Pubbies, and, aided and abetted by a leftist, activist legacy media, has resulted in a situation where normal Patriots, who would ordinarily have gone out and shot these vermin, have been ennervated into inaction.

When do we start to take 'action'?


15 posted on 12/08/2005 8:07:34 PM PST by x1stcav (Murtha is a surrender monkey)
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"Kerry said that "there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women,"

quite an accusation, coming from a guy who shot a fleeing 16 year old in the back.....and negligently set up the circumstances that resulted in the death of at least one child in a sampan


19 posted on 12/08/2005 8:13:28 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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Well, the question is: Is Dean giving aid and comfort to the enemy or not? I think he is and I think an easy 70% of the rest of the Rat party is also, so it's treason. What's really sad, is they aren't committing it out of any inwardly held principles, but just for thier bloodlust for power and to hurt President Bush. Murtha, Dean, and Pelosi et al are despicable excuses for human beings. Now this beg the question if the Rats are aiding, abetting, and giving comfort to our enemies, does this mean the Rats are enemies and a danger to national security?
21 posted on 12/08/2005 8:15:22 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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It's been treason by the RATS, MSM and anyone else who has knowingly published or spoke false allegations which the only intent is to harm the national security of the US in the time of war.


25 posted on 12/08/2005 8:21:34 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: smoothsailing

Rant: Taken from the text of an American Textbook 2077, "There was, in American, a period of disorder brought on by the constant liberal damage to the family and society. A complete societial breakdown in order occured.... At the height of the liberal takeover of American and her dark days of lawlessness, true patriots rose (aka the insurgency of values) to hunt down the vocal charalotons. As the numbers of those who advocated the abdiction of law and order declined, America was restored and today again leads the free world in both trade and peace."


30 posted on 12/08/2005 8:25:37 PM PST by Jumper
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I just don't what else to call it anymore.

I do. Partisan politics. If the roles were reversed and say a different international affair, the Republicans would be as ardent against Democratic actions as Democrats are against Republicans now.

31 posted on 12/08/2005 8:25:43 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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Tell me why that's not treason.

It may be treason, but it's not prosecutable unless there is war declared under constitutional provision 1-8-11.

32 posted on 12/08/2005 8:26:39 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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46 posted on 12/08/2005 8:39:11 PM PST by Nateman (In the spirt of friendship reach out to a RAT, then slap the scumbag.)
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Let me help...

http://www.constitution.org/cmt/jwh/jwh_treason_jr.htm

While I do not agree with the agruments or conclusions, the case of Cramer vs US has been decided.

Synopsis: accusation of treason can limit political debate which is forbidden by the Constitution. Therefore, there exists a line which 1st must be crossed, however, it has not be officially established.

We are waiting for Alito to be confirmed. If that happens, the socialists will wilt in the face of an honest Judiciary. IMO.

Given the temperment of the demofacists, it will not be about abortion but what Alito thinks about Treason.

Mark my words...


47 posted on 12/08/2005 8:39:45 PM PST by Prost1 (I get my news at Free Republic!)
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Who decides if it's treason? A Federal Grand Jury, that's who.
Of course, that won't happen until our fine Attorney General gets off his butt and hands down some indictments.

I'm not going to hold my breath waiting. . .


48 posted on 12/08/2005 8:40:04 PM PST by Ostlandr (Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer do NOT represent me!)
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To: smoothsailing
It would be treason, except for the fact that we're not at war. Those would be the weasle words used by those who are for all intents and purposed, committing treason. Of course, we're "at" war, since our army is overseas, shooting at others, and being shot at: But by law and definition, we're not at war, because the US Congress hasn't declared war.

I just wish that somebody in the media would quote one of those losers who bring up Viet Nam, and then quote from General Giap's book, where he credited the anti-war protestors, the media, and their ilk, for the US defeat.

They're despicable, and they're causing the war to take longer than it should (just like the French, Germans, and Russians caused the war to take place in the first place: Hussien never believed that the US would act without their "consent.") More important, it's causing our service men and women to be killed.

Mark

56 posted on 12/08/2005 8:56:12 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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Treason has to be redefined in the context of todays world situation and technologies.

The seditious blatherings of Kerry, Dean, Pelosi, et.al. go directly from their mouths to the ears of the enemy.

I hold them largely responsible for terrorist atrocities in Iraq.

Sounds like treason to me.


58 posted on 12/08/2005 9:06:57 PM PST by Zman516 ("Allah" is Satan, actually.)
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Treason is defined, in part, as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemies of the United States, according to the Constitution (Article III, Section 3) (web site) and the United States Code (Title 18, Part I, Chapter 115, Section 2381). (web site) Yet the Constitution also states, in the First Amendment, (web site) that "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech." How do we distinguish between free speech and treason? Where do we draw the line? The answer may be found using that least-used resource: common sense.

This i understand fully

But with a giant BUT i ask don't you officially have to have declared war on a Nation of origin or at least on a official Government before you can call it Treason ?

Until we actually declare war on a country of origin are we just in a policing action?

Now before i'm beaten up for asking these questions you must understand i am fully behing this action weather it be war or policing i back our troops and our president on these actions and i back those senators and congressmen who stand on the side of America .

I to think it's not only treasonous but in some cases pure sabatage pourposly put forward for the pure use of political gain and shear power mongering !

But i still ask the same questions.

60 posted on 12/08/2005 9:08:28 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (secus acutulus exspiro ab Acheron bipes actio absol ab Acheron supplico)
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