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MIAMI INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT:Chaos on Flight 924: threat and fatal shots
Miami Herald ^ | 12/08/2005 | A. Driscoll, L. Clark and T. Daniel

Posted on 12/08/2005 9:53:01 AM PST by FerdieMurphy

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Alpizar, clutching his backpack, did the wrong thing.

Bang!

1 posted on 12/08/2005 9:53:03 AM PST by FerdieMurphy
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He did two things wrong: he said he had a bomb, and then he reached inside the backback -- any reasonable person would conclude he was about to detonate the bomb he said he had. The Air Marshalls would have failed to do their duty at that point had they not shot him. This is a horrifying and tragic episode, but those responsible for the safety of passangers on board that plane did their job.


2 posted on 12/08/2005 10:00:20 AM PST by 3AngelaD
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If the marshal didn't shoot, and the guy blew up the plane, who do you think the msm would be blaming today?


3 posted on 12/08/2005 10:04:24 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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A man, wearing a backpack, runs into the House Democrat Caucus meeting, yelling he has a bomb...Capitol Hill police yell at him to get down on the ground, but the man reaches his hand into the backback..

What do Pelosi, et al say..?

4 posted on 12/08/2005 10:04:58 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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Some people just don't learn. I'd bet that other guy, McAlhany, is a democrat.


5 posted on 12/08/2005 10:06:22 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom-What fools they are who doubt the ability of liberty to triumph over despotism)
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To: FerdieMurphy

One less bi-polar we have to deal with.


6 posted on 12/08/2005 10:11:00 AM PST by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire.)
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'They put a gun to the back of my head and said, `Put your hands on the seat,' '' he said. ``That was more scary than anything else.''

What's with the cops doing this to the other passengers? Needs some explanation.

7 posted on 12/08/2005 10:12:47 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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suicide by "cop"....had a fight with the wife while on the aircraft....


8 posted on 12/08/2005 10:13:20 AM PST by thinking
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That is an uncalled for comment.


9 posted on 12/08/2005 10:14:01 AM PST by MamaB (mom to an Angel)
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10 posted on 12/08/2005 10:17:41 AM PST by Mulch (tm)
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If the marshal didn't shoot, and the guy blew up the plane, who do you think the msm would be blaming today?

The TSA for not screening the package. The public wouldn't know there had been Marshals on the plane.

11 posted on 12/08/2005 10:17:42 AM PST by Cboldt
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They did the right thing.


12 posted on 12/08/2005 10:19:34 AM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than anyone will ever know. He's A++)
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McAlhany was obviously speaking before learning many of the facts that we know, since he said "I hope he didn't holler anything stupid". If I hadn't known the guy had said he had a bomb, I'd also be wondering aloud whether it was really appropriate to shoot him. Without that info, he could easily have been a just a very nervous flier who panicked about the impending take-off and ran out of the plane, and then reached for ID when marshals chased him and yelled at him to get down.


13 posted on 12/08/2005 10:22:32 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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''I don't know if they shot an innocent man or not,'' McAlhany said.

Yep, the libs and 'RATS would argue that he should have been permitted to reach into his bag, and if he just happened to detonate a bomb, then that would have been conclusive evidence that he was not innocent. The fact that he might have taken a couple hundred others along with him is immaterial; he should have been given the benefit of the doubt.

14 posted on 12/08/2005 10:25:16 AM PST by Salvey (ancest)
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What's with the cops doing this to the other passengers? Needs some explanation.

I don't know.....it makes perfect sense to me since the 9/11 terrorists worked in teams of 4-5. I can't blame them one bit for taking complete control of everyone on the plane via psychological aggression. You must first assume that everyone is involved until you can begin some sort of vetting process.

15 posted on 12/08/2005 10:26:12 AM PST by Niteranger68 ("Spare the rod, spoil the liberal.")
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What's with the cops doing this to the other passengers? Needs some explanation.

Everybody is a potential threat. The assumption at the time was that the man had accomplices on board - it is the only safe assumption to make.

16 posted on 12/08/2005 10:28:12 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: MamaB

Even bi-polars need to obey the orders of LE, take their medication, or don't fly on airplanes.


17 posted on 12/08/2005 10:30:59 AM PST by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire.)
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If this is what actually happened, which I have NO reason not to believe this report, the Air Marshalls' did their jobs. The guy had all the earmarks of a Suicide bomber, in their minds.

During various events in DC like Bush Inauguration...this was what the military feared most. The CO of the DC Military District got a good nights sleep once this event was completed.

18 posted on 12/08/2005 10:31:34 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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I feel sorry for the wife, family and friends of the guy who was killed.

But, having endured two co-workers that simply refused to treat their
manic-depression problem, all I can say is that having an untreated person
going nuts in an enclosed space is a recipe for disaster and tragedy.

The air marshall(s) did what had to be done. I hope they get counseling
and don't listen too much to the second-guessers on TV/radio.


19 posted on 12/08/2005 10:33:15 AM PST by VOA
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and then reached for ID when marshals chased him and yelled at him to get down

If someone runs to the front of the plane erratically and refuses orders to get down and he reaches into his bag, I hope they do shoot him. I don't care if he doesn't "understand". He could kill everyone in that plane. Better to lose one than 80.

20 posted on 12/08/2005 10:36:02 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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