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John McCain: U.S. Still Torturing Terrorists
NewsMax ^ | December 8, 2005 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 12/08/2005 9:37:35 AM PST by Kaslin

Sen. John McCain claimed Wednesday that the U.S. is still torturing terrorist detainees, even as Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice visits with European leaders to assure them that the practice is banned under U.S. law.

"We've got to stop this torture," McCain told radio host Don Imus.

"If you torture somebody, they're going to tell you what they think you want to know in order to make the pain stop," he complained.

The Republican maverick said the U.S. can't win the propaganda war "if people believe throughout the world that you are practicing cruel, inhuman, degrading mistreatment or torture on the people that you capture."

"Right now," McCain complained, "we have prisons, apparently, set up in different places in the world where we're keeping people for years."

His comments come as Dr. Rice meets with European leaders to assure them that claims about ongoing torture are baseless.

"The United States does not condone torture," she told a German audience on Tuesday. "It is against U.S. law to be involved in torture or conspiracy to commit torture. And it is also against U.S. international obligations and the President has made it very clear that U.S. personnel will operate within U.S. law and within our international obligations."

Rice also indicated, however, that interrogations conducted in the foreign prisons referenced by McCain have been productive, telling reporters, "The intelligence we gathered has helped to stop terrorist attacks and saved innocent lives in Europe - as well as in the United States and other countries."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; US: Arizona; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; johnmccain; mccain; samjohnson; torture; torturebill
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To: PhiKapMom

McInsane-will-never-win-the-GOP-primaries ping


41 posted on 12/08/2005 9:53:14 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Para-Ord.45
Para-Ord.45 wrote:

"O`l Songbird at it again. This guy sang like a canary in `Nam. Guess torture works huh Johnnie boy."

1. Prove what you said.
2. Torture does tend to get you what the torturee thinks you want to hear. Having been tortured, it's not fun.
42 posted on 12/08/2005 9:54:00 AM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: Kaslin
""We've got to stop this torture," McCain told radio host Don Imus."

Don Anus and McCain are on an ongoing media love fest.

I think Anus in the Morning rotates Chris Dodd, John McCain and Joe Biden constantly.

43 posted on 12/08/2005 9:54:10 AM PST by lormand (Close the border...the US/Kalifornia border.)
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To: Kaslin
Sen. John McCain claimed Wednesday that the U.S. is still torturing terrorist detainees


44 posted on 12/08/2005 9:54:12 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Note for visitors at Arafat's grave - first dance, THEN pee.)
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To: Kaslin

Prove it, McCain. We'll wait patiently while you do.


45 posted on 12/08/2005 9:54:49 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

John McCain: "Torture Worked on Me"

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/29/100012.shtml


46 posted on 12/08/2005 9:55:47 AM PST by Paul_N_Lakeside
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To: Kaslin

Where are our fellow Freepers who think this moron would make a good presidential candidate?


47 posted on 12/08/2005 9:56:12 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: samadams2000

Nobody doubts he was a great Vietnam War patriot who endured NVA imprisonment and maltreatment. It's also beginning to look like there's no doubt his war travails have left lingering mental affects.


48 posted on 12/08/2005 9:56:35 AM PST by knightshadow
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To: Kaslin

This idiot spent 5 years being tortured in the Hanoi Hilton and is very sensitive to the way we are treating our POWs now.

He's dead wrong, but I understand where he's coming from.


49 posted on 12/08/2005 9:57:44 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: petercooper
I contend to this day that when the Abu Griab (sp?) photos were published, liberals throughout the world got sexual gratification from the photos, and as soon as they exausted themselves, turned it into a political issue.
50 posted on 12/08/2005 9:58:17 AM PST by lormand (Close the border...the US/Kalifornia border.)
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To: Semper Paratus
McCain now as much chance winning a Republican primary as HRC.

Makes me really curious what he's up to - is he building a base to run as an independent? I don't think he has much of a chance in Republican primaries but he could do a lot of damage to Republicans in a 3-way race. He'd be the "savior" to the Democrats who aren't quite as far left as HRH or Howard Dean.

51 posted on 12/08/2005 9:58:56 AM PST by Spyder
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To: Kaslin
I have a daughter with boots on the ground in Iraq. I have her husband, ALSO with boots on the ground in Iraq. So I figure I have a dog in this fight.

Read my lips Senator. I'll say it real slow so even your slow with can pick it up:

I ... DON'T ... CARE!!!

I DO condone torture, in fact, I don't even want these monsters captured so they can be pampered by the likes of you. I DO NOT want a law that essentially tells terrorists that they're going to have an easy time of it in a US prison.

And finally, I DO want you to SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE!

how anybody could consider voting this guy in as President, is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY beyond me!!!

Read a thread a week ago about this great man and it almost made me puke!

52 posted on 12/08/2005 9:59:26 AM PST by America's Resolve (I've become a 'single issue voter' for 06 and 08. My issue is illegal immigration!)
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To: Kaslin

If you haven't figured out what McCain IS by now, you never will. A political chameleon of the highest order. Anti-constitutionalist, and major opportunist, no matter what the cost to America.

Now he is working FOR THE TERRORISTS. FOR OUR ENEMIES. IMHO, a frontal lobotomy would solve his personal problem, which is very apparent.

Look real hard at what Washington has turned into. And start thinking real hard about 2006 and 2008.


53 posted on 12/08/2005 10:00:12 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Para-Ord.45

Nobody tortured John McCain, the Fortunate Son, in Vietnam. They didn't have to.


54 posted on 12/08/2005 10:00:21 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (History says our political structure and weak stomach will cause us to lose this war.)
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To: Kaslin

"If you torture somebody, they're going to tell you what they think you want to know in order to make the pain stop," he complained.

Well, it worked for you Senator, no?


55 posted on 12/08/2005 10:00:34 AM PST by proudmilitarymrs
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To: GAB-1955

U.S. News and World Report - May 14, 1973:
"I think it was on the fourth day [after being shot down] that two guards came in, instead of one. One of them pulled back the blanket to show the other guard my injury. I looked at my knee. It was about the size of a football . . . when I saw it, I said to the guard, 'O.K., get the officer' . . . an officer came in after a few minutes. It was the man that we came to know very well as 'The Bug.' He was a psychotic torturer, one of the worst fiends that we had to deal with. I said, 'O.K., I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital.'"


56 posted on 12/08/2005 10:01:22 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Kaslin

Link:

Brothers in 'Hilton' now are foes on the Hill (Sam Johnson Vs McCain)
Houston Chronicle ^ | December 7, 2005 | Michael Hedges
Posted on 12/07/2005 12:25:03 PM EST by johnmecainrino
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1535742/posts


57 posted on 12/08/2005 10:02:07 AM PST by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: massgopguy

"He's a childish little punk who only does what's best for him and what makes him feel good."

And we thought Tom Daschle was bad. At least he was correctly identified as a Democrate.


58 posted on 12/08/2005 10:02:16 AM PST by JimmyMc
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To: EagleUSA

And the democrats just love nut cases. Look at how they swoon over Howard Dean.


59 posted on 12/08/2005 10:02:35 AM PST by knightshadow
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To: Kaslin
"If you torture somebody, they're going to tell you what they think you want to know in order to make the pain stop," he complained

I don't know about this, McCain has been torturing us for years now and we don't tell him we want him to be president.

60 posted on 12/08/2005 10:03:31 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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