Posted on 12/08/2005 9:37:35 AM PST by Kaslin
Sen. John McCain claimed Wednesday that the U.S. is still torturing terrorist detainees, even as Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice visits with European leaders to assure them that the practice is banned under U.S. law.
"We've got to stop this torture," McCain told radio host Don Imus.
"If you torture somebody, they're going to tell you what they think you want to know in order to make the pain stop," he complained.
The Republican maverick said the U.S. can't win the propaganda war "if people believe throughout the world that you are practicing cruel, inhuman, degrading mistreatment or torture on the people that you capture."
"Right now," McCain complained, "we have prisons, apparently, set up in different places in the world where we're keeping people for years."
His comments come as Dr. Rice meets with European leaders to assure them that claims about ongoing torture are baseless.
"The United States does not condone torture," she told a German audience on Tuesday. "It is against U.S. law to be involved in torture or conspiracy to commit torture. And it is also against U.S. international obligations and the President has made it very clear that U.S. personnel will operate within U.S. law and within our international obligations."
Rice also indicated, however, that interrogations conducted in the foreign prisons referenced by McCain have been productive, telling reporters, "The intelligence we gathered has helped to stop terrorist attacks and saved innocent lives in Europe - as well as in the United States and other countries."
Unless the person being tortured is totally innocent, I don't see the problem with using torture to get information that could save the lives of many innocent people.
In that situation, there'd be no reason to torture someone to get them to lie. So if the interogator just wants to know the truth, and the tortured tells what the interogator wants to know, we'd be getting some useful information that could stop a catastorphe.
Hey, McLame...STFU
He needs a mental exam. Is that considered torture?
Just how does he know this? Or does he think that the only way to get information from a terrorist is to torture them? If he thinks this way, then how does he propose for our intelligence to get information from our prisoners? Does he know or does any one know how to get information from a prisoner unless you either make them hurt or bribe them in some way. If you try to trick them in some way by talking to them, you still wouldn't know if the information was any good. If the traitors and the fifth columnist in congress would keep their mouth shut about it, it wouldn't be such a big deal.
"There's a lot of that going around in DC. Must be the water."
It's called "Pompous Ass Syndrome". You get it from serving more than one term in Congress. They all become little Napoleons from all of the power they think they yield. However, I do think that Capt. McQueeg is unstable.
Gonna have to add McCain to the tratitors list:
Benedict Arnold
Lee Harvey Oswald
John Kerry
John Murtha
John McCain
Sam Johnson spent one and a half years of his detention in Nam in the same cell as McCain. He has little use for McCain and says he can't hold a candle to GWB.
VERY good point!!
That just about says it all.
AMEN!
McCain a lifelong dirtbag.
Screw his service to the country, he has F@cked this country with his idiocy.
What are they doing Senator? Playing your speeches?
Survived the Hanoi Hilton.
Survived the USS Forrestal.
Survived the Keating Scandal.
Why does God hate us so much?
Where are tey torturing them and how are they torturing them?
Is John suffering from something similar to the stockholm syndrome? I'm not one for torture but I think he's going overboard with this.
These are people who, by any means necessary, kill as many Americans as possible.
McCain is a puzzle to me. If he really wants to be president, how does he expect Republicans to vote for him.
McCain's history of being tortured gives him no special credibility on the subject of torture.
For example, if a retarded person is captured and tortured, do we make them the latest expert on torture?
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