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Iraq Insurgents Claim to Kill U.S. Hostage
AP ^ | 12/8/5

Posted on 12/08/2005 8:44:08 AM PST by SmithL

CAIRO, Egypt -- An Iraqi insurgent group said Thursday in an Internet posting that it killed a U.S. security consultant it had taken hostage. The claim's authenticity could not be immediately verified.

The Islamic Army in Iraq said it had killed "the American security consultant for the Housing Ministry,"

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TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: hostage; hostages; iaii; iraq; islamicarmy; islamicarmyiniraq; prisonerabuse; religionofpeace; ronaldschulz
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To: piasa
Something I heard a while back and just now remembered;
I was speaking to a friend that got back from Afghanistan and he told me that a lot of senior military people believe that there are some reporters at Al-Jazeera that they suspect not only knew where the terrorist were but were actively involved in the murders for the news stories and that is how they get the tapes and Internet messages so easily without being detected.
41 posted on 12/08/2005 9:24:39 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: RouxStir
No islam....know peace.

Truely awesome... a great message here. What a bumper sticker this would make.

42 posted on 12/08/2005 9:25:51 AM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: piasa
That don't fly- there's not one comment on my part that implies I'm a fan of Sadr.

You're a fan of Chalabi, and Chalabi is Sadr's closest political ally. The math here is not particularly difficult.

43 posted on 12/08/2005 9:26:27 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: johnmecainrino

There are just SO many candidates that could qualify as a co-killer, if this man is dead....

The whole dem party for one, (minus Lieberman)...the MSM...and like you said McCain!


44 posted on 12/08/2005 9:31:34 AM PST by Txsleuth (MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY HANNUKAH...The dems are spreading joy through GOPland!)
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To: tobyhill
I'm no expert either but I think in these cases the "specific computer" is often just the server of a legitimate company that is unwittingly hosting that web site amid thousands of other legit sites. The terrorist web sites are uploaded onto the servers from the terrorist's computer- or more likely some public library or coffeeshop computer overseas and after that the original computer is no longer involved. Any tracing goes only to the legit server whose owner can then be notified to shut it down.
45 posted on 12/08/2005 9:32:45 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: SmithL

We almost moved to Alaska after my husband finished his hitch.

Unleash the dogs, George. Please.

May God hold this man in the palm of his hand, and his family in peace and comfort.


46 posted on 12/08/2005 9:34:17 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom-What fools they are who doubt the ability of liberty to triumph over despotism)
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To: SmithL
Way to go Congresswoman Murtha. Way to go Coward Dean. Way to go Nasty Pelosi.
47 posted on 12/08/2005 9:34:44 AM PST by Toadman
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To: MARKUSPRIME

If you're referring to the democrats, I agree.

They need to be sent to negotiate the release of the others, physically, in person.


48 posted on 12/08/2005 9:36:52 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom-What fools they are who doubt the ability of liberty to triumph over despotism)
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To: SmithL
These animals are disgusting.

With that said, has anyone noticed that they hadn't murdered a hostage in a while. When they stopped slitting throats, it was a change in tactics. Now they return to that tactic. Why? Upcoming election? Perceived US domestic pressure for a troop withdrawal, attempting to hurry the process? Got their knives back from the sharpener?

I'm guessing #2. Thank you traitor Murtha for another murdered American (with special mention for the US media). Additionally, thank you Benedict Kerry for you second betrayal of America. These people should be tried for treason, and then shot.
49 posted on 12/08/2005 9:37:25 AM PST by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate our country.)
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To: tobyhill
Some people working for al Jazeerah definitely have some problems.

Al-Jazeera boss to quit after Iraqi spies claim
The Daily Telegraph ^ | May 28, 2003 | Anton La Guardia

Al-Jazeera boss to quit after Iraqi spies claim By Anton La Guardia, Diplomatic Editor (Filed: 28/05/2003)

The head of al-Jazeera, the Arab satellite television station, will step down after criticism of its reporting from Iraq and Afghanistan and claims that it was infiltrated by Saddam Hussein's agents.

A spokesman for the network said the departure of Mohammed Jassem al-Ali, its director-general, was not because of political pressure and he would remain on the governing board.

Mohammed Jassem al-Ali He was "seconded from Qatar Television to set up and run al-Jazeera and what has been decided is that this be ceased," said Jihad Ballout. "These rumours and allegations about al-Jazeera are not taken at face value."

The Sunday Times, citing documents it said were seized in Baghdad by the Iraqi National Congress, reported this month that Iraqi intelligence officials claimed to have infiltrated the network. It said there was no evidence that Iraq had recruited al-Ali, but the documents purported to give details of contacts with Iraqi agents in which he made clear that coverage would favour Baghdad.

Al-Jazeera, launched in 1996, is the trailblazer for a new generation of Arab satellite TV channels. It began as a beacon of political openness in a region of dominated by tightly controlled and dull state broadcasters.

But in recent years, as it upset one Arab regime after another, the network has been accused by America and Britain of becoming Osama bin Laden's favourite outlet and promoting anti-western nationalism.

It was heavily criticised for broadcasting exclusive material from Iraqi officials showing dead or captured coalition soldiers.

Pro-western Arabs who at first welcomed al-Jazeera's democratising influence are increasingly worried. "It began as an experiment in breaking the taboos, but it quickly ran out of control and began a competition with other channels over who could incite more against the usual suspects," said a Qatari source....

50 posted on 12/08/2005 9:39:59 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Wristpin

I'd like to see the video with Michael Moore's, Pelosi's, Durbin's, Dean's, Kerry's, Murtha's etc., etc., etc. head superimposed.


51 posted on 12/08/2005 9:40:21 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom-What fools they are who doubt the ability of liberty to triumph over despotism)
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To: johnmecainrino
I already know about McCain as do most who follow politics. Don't be so sure the CIA will change its policy re prisoner treatment. What they say and what they do are two entirely different things.
52 posted on 12/08/2005 9:40:22 AM PST by Eagles Talon IV
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To: SmithL

What a shocker. Did anyone think the hostage would be let go?


53 posted on 12/08/2005 9:40:57 AM PST by Frenetic
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Insurgents my ass, they are terrorists.....


54 posted on 12/08/2005 9:41:35 AM PST by b4its2late (More Republicans in Congress need to grow a pair.)
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To: tobyhill
Iraqi Council Plans to Ban Arab TV Channels (Iraq says No to Al-Jazeera!)
Reuters ^ | Sept. 23, 2003 | Huda Majeed Saleh

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq's Governing Council said Tuesday it planned to suspend the Iraqi operations of two Arab satellite channels it accused of inciting violence against U.S.-led occupation forces.

Entifadh Qanbar, spokesman for council chairman Ahmed Chalabi, said the move against Qatar-based Al Jazeera and Dubai- based Al Arabiya was intended as a clear message to other channels that might stir unrest among the Iraqi population.

U.S. forces face daily attacks from guerrilla fighters seeking to drive them from Iraq. Dissatisfaction with the occupation is aggravated by grave shortcomings in many basic services such as water and electricity.

"Yesterday the council issued a resolution...to close Al Jazeera and Al Arabiya satellite stations for violations (of rules) and promoting sectarian differences in Iraq," Qanbar told a news conference in Baghdad.

"For promoting political violence, promoting killing of members of the Governing Council, promoting killing of members of the U.S. coalition, putting on their screens videotapes of terrorists."

Local staff of the two channels in Baghdad told Reuters they had been informed their operations would be shut down for two weeks, and that they planned to appeal to the U.S.-led administration in Iraq.

The administration has promised media freedom in Iraq, and says it will close media outlets only if they are guilty of inciting violence.

STATIONS WIDELY WATCHED

In Dubai, Arabiya said it had received no official notification and was still operating normally.

"We are trying to cover all aspects of the situation in Iraq as objectively as possible and that includes allowing our channel to be a forum for everyone in Iraqi society, be they opposition, the Americans or the government," Abdul Sattar Ellaz, program editor for Al Arabiya, told Reuters.

Both stations are widely watched in Iraq by satellite. Both have aired videotapes of ex-president Saddam Hussein encouraging Iraqis to fight the U.S. occupation of Iraq.

Qanbar said the council, after a short ban, would issue regulations for the stations to follow, and punishments to be applied if they did not.

"Our belief is that Iraq, in such a critical situation, cannot afford to sustain such attacks and promotion of sectarianism and political violence," he said.

Qanbar said the Governing Council was meeting with the U.S. civil administration to discuss how to pursue the matter legally.

55 posted on 12/08/2005 9:43:34 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: piasa
TY for the post. It has always amazed me that these terrorist websites look so professional, even in the rolling text, as if it was done by Al-Jazeera themselves.
56 posted on 12/08/2005 9:44:43 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: piasa

"In Dubai, Arabiya said it had received no official notification and was still operating normally"

We should attach the notice to a 2000lb JDAM and deliver it.


57 posted on 12/08/2005 9:46:02 AM PST by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate our country.)
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To: piasa

Even without them in Iraq they're getting this info pretty darn quick since the deadline was just a couple hours ago.


58 posted on 12/08/2005 9:46:53 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: tobyhill

US troops arrested a CBS cameraman - a locally hired Iraqi- on suspicions he was working in tandem with the insurgents. Amazing how some in the press manage to have cameramen alongside an insurgent ready for the perfect shot when the insurgents are trying to set up an ambush.


59 posted on 12/08/2005 9:50:20 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: piasa

I remember that one and what ever happened to him?


60 posted on 12/08/2005 9:51:52 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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