Iraq Insurgents Claim to Kill U.S. Hostage

AP ^ | 12/8/5

[piasa]

Notice that the media in this case didn't pass along their tip to US forces but instead went along with the insurgent plan:


NEWS RELEASE HEADQUARTERS UNITED STATES CENTRAL COMMAND 7115 South Boundary Boulevard MacDill AFB, Fla. 33621-5101 Phone: (813) 827-5894; FAX: (813) 827-2211; DSN 651-5894

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June 3, 2004 Release Number: 04-06-09

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

COALITION SOLDIERS QUESTION NEWS MEDIA FOLLOWING ROADSIDE BOMB

MOSUL, Iraq - Coalition soldiers questioned two news media cameramen and a reporter after a roadside bomb exploded near a Coalition convoy two kilometers north of Mosul June 3.

The media, who were at the scene prior to the attack, told soldiers at the scene they had received a tip to be at that location prior to the attack and they had witnessed the explosion.

There was minimal damage to a Coalition vehicle, a cracked windshield, and no serious injuries.

3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division soldiers requested the media accompany them to a base camp in Mosul to answer questions as witnesses to the incident. The news media representatives left the base camp in the mid afternoon.

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[fella]

Is this the one that our MSM fell all over themselves to reveal that he was an ex-marine?

[tobyhill]

Of course, death makes news. Now MSNBC got the first word of this hostage death at 10:21 cdt before anyone else announced it, how does a station automatically go right to the terrorist website or is it sent to them?

[Cautor]

"But according to McCain if we treat detainees fairly they will do the same to us."

Ah, yes, Johnny McFlaming Asshole. Poor grades at prep school in DC, but got into the Naval Academy on the basis of his daddy and granddaddy's records as admirals. Nearly flunked out of the Academy but family influence saved his ass again. He was a disaster in flight school but got his wings and soon after deployment got himself shot down. When he was finally released, he came back to the US and dumped the wife who stood by him all those years he was a POW so he could marry the daughter of a wealthy AZ beer baron whose connections could get him a political office. Oh, there was that savings and loan scandal. Now, this low life thinks he an expert on all kinds of matters. I abhor him absolutely. He needs to get his nasty mug out of sight and quit acting as a traitor to the US.

[Monterrosa-24]

Gee Mr. Cautor, If you don't like McCain maybe you should just come out and say it. It is so difficult to interpret your very subtle descriptions of his career.

[angkor]

I'm no computer expert but can anyone tell me why no one can trace the IP address

You need TS/SCI clearance for that answer.

[Stultis]

Animals. Kill them. Kill them all.

Absolutely. So long as we don't break down their doors at night, violate their customs, or disturb their women and children. I hold George Bush personally responsible for bringing these terrorists to justice, once I've delegitimized all possible means of doing so.</JOHN KERRY MODE>

[angkor]

The terrorist web sites are uploaded onto the servers from the terrorist's computer- or more likely some public library or coffeeshop computer

You need to research the capture of Dan Pearl's killers, or that of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

Then make some logical inferences.

[Tokra]

Leahy of Vermont is so worried about these terrorists he said either I say charge them and give them rights or release them. with 50,000 volts.

[tobyhill]

How does our MSM sources get to these websites or is it sent to them from the terrorist? I've tried at least 20 of these websites and all have been shut down.

[angkor]

Dunno. Try these:

http://www.haganah.org.il/haganah/index.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Haganah

[BooksForTheRight.com]

The leftist dominant media will cover this as little as they did Margaret Hassan's brutal murder.
To the media, the shooting of a "passenger" on a jet is worthy of more news and hype.

Why? The "downtrodden" poor "oppressed" terrorists have to be forgiven.
The air marshall acted under Bush's authority. ("oppressor")
That's why.

[tobyhill]

This site was updated today, it is from terrorist propagandist. The hosting is out of the US. website.http://www.freewebtown.com/albdl/main.htm

[tobyhill]

This is the web hosting companies parent company, http://www.ts-host.com/

[New Perspective]

These people are amazing! Just who in the HELL do they think they are winning over by these acts of savage barbarism?

These are the type they are winning over.

[Eagles Talon IV]

Libs always seem afraid. How can a person live their life in a constant state of fear, gloom and doom and hopelessness?

[Rennes Templar]

On another but related matter,I've got a stuboorn pop-up in registry files. Do you the Freeper site that addresses such issues?

[halfright]

McCain spent WAY too much time in that box in Nam'. He has some serious mental health issues.....

[tobyhill]

Pop up blockers usually work but it could also be a cookie on your machine. If it continues you can run a regedit cleaner or just go to your regedit and delete it if you know exactly what file it's in. There are some free sites that can scan your system and show you where the pester files are but most cleaners have to be bought.

[piasa]

Using your logic, General Meyers , chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is "a Sadr fan." Obviously that's not true.

Using your logic, this intelligence officer is a Sadr fan:

MARCH 2004 : (US MILITARY DIVISION : INC INTEL PROVED TO BE "HEAD AND SHOULDERS ABOVE" THE INFO PROVIDED BY FOUR OTHER IRAQI POLITICAL ORGANIZATIONS) Back in March, the Pentagon requested feedback on the effectiveness of cooperation from five Iraq political organizations. The written report from the chief intelligence officer of one front-line U.S. division declared that the INC "proved to be head and shoulders above the information provided by the other four organizations."
According to this report--which is classified but was made available to us--the INC has provided "imminent threat warning" and "reconnaissance surveillance capability that U.S. forces cannot match in an urban environment." For example, Saddam Hussein was captured last December with documents containing eight names. The INC was directly responsible for the capture of four on that list, and thanks to its lead a fifth was captured within a month. The intelligence assessment calls the INC a "true force multiplier" and says that the U.S. division's "ability to accomplish our mission would have been significantly hampered" without its support. "In the final analysis, the INC has been directly responsible for saving the lives of numerous soldiers as a result of early warning and providing surveillance of known enemy elements," the report says.------"U.N. Oil-for-Food Scandal : The Chalabi Fiasco - He's a Pawn in a Much Larger Strategic Game ," By The Editorial Board, The Wall Street Journal - Opinion Journal, May 26, 2004 Wed

Actually, Chalabi is an ally of Sadr's competition, a moderate Shiite mufti named SISTANI, known as Grand Ayatollah Sistani and an ally of the US. [Sadr's father Sadr was tortured and executed by Saddam Hussein and the son has been a hothead ever since. Falsely claiming the title of a cleric; Sadr's newspaper was one of those shut down for inciting violence that John Kerry called a "legitmate voice" in Iraq.]

Rather than being a pal of Sadr, Chalabi was one of those working to get the Iranians to drop their support for Sadr's "Mahdi Army" militia. Chalabi was also one of those who along with Wolfowitz was trying to get a reluctant Bremer to move against Sadr and his forces early on.

Chalabi is part of Sistani's United Iraqi Alliance, more secular a political party than the Dawa, for example. They seek to neuter violent factions' ability to dominate the Shia by unifying the various moderate factions, so generating strength in numbers. Such a moderate face to a Shia political party will lessen Kurdish and Sunni fears about democracy in a land where the Shia have a greater share of the population.

JANUARY 2005 : (CHALABI'S COALITION, GRAND AYATOLLAH SISTANI'S UNITED IRAQI ALLIANCE, IS IS MOST LIKELY TO EMERGE FROM THE ELECTIONS WITH THE MOST SEATS) His [Chalabi's] postwar coalition, Grand Ayatollah Sistani's United Iraqi Alliance, is struggling to bring rival Shia religious parties together in a way that Sunnis, secular Iraqis, and Kurds can live with. The UIA is the odds-on favorite to emerge with the most seats when the votes are counted, and Chalabi is number 10 on their list. He will be a key figure in the new, 275-member Iraqi national assembly (who has spoken out against an Islamic republic).------- "Chalabi Is Back : An apology is in order. ," By Barbara Lerner , February 08, 2005, 8:35 a.m., http://www.nationalreview.com/lerner/lerner200502080835.asp

You didn't answer the question- are you a member of VIPS? Or possibly a fan of the LaRouchie guy Patrick Lang who is hates Chalabi? Naearly all the negative press on Chalabi source Lang, who is a registered foreign agent of Lebanon. Patrick Lang works for Fauad Makhzoumi, a wealthy Lebanese. [See the Hariri assassination that couased such an uproar in Lebanon.]

Another critic of Chalabi is Robert Baer, formerly CIA, who if he had his way would have installed a Sunni strongman in power in Iraq so as to avoid making Sunnis feel "disenfranchised." [His word.] The UN also preferred the idea of a Sunni and proposed their associate Brahimi take the job of interim Prez. The Iraqis bucked that effort and instead, in a suprise vote, chose Iyad Allawi, Chalabi's cousin for that job.

A faction of former CIA agents and analysts has done everything it can to try to take Chalabi down because he opposed their plan to carry out a coup in Iraq that would have left the Baathists in power. Robert Baer was involved in that failed coup - he also was involved in an effort by the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood to take out the previous leader of Syria, Assad; they contacted him back in 1986 trying to propose an intelligence alliance, which he says the CIA declined. The Syrian Muslim brotherhood has some ties to al Qaeda.

Robert Baer managed to get reinvolved after he left the CIA, carrying messages for the Baathists' former intelligence chief Tahir Jalil Habbush as they were seeking a Sunni solution to Iraq's future governance that would leave some of the former regime members in place. This was before Saddam Hussein's capture. Habbush's reps claimed they didn't know if Saddam Hussein was still alive after a meeting place had been bombed. But Chalabi pointed out at the time that not only was Hussein still alive, he was indside Iraq. And Chalabi was correct.

Like Patrick Lang, Robert Baer has Lebanese connections and has taken a consultant job in Beirut.