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Dems Doubt Iraq Progress
FOXNews.com ^ | 8 December 2005 | Greg Simmons

Posted on 12/08/2005 3:20:03 AM PST by Aussie Dasher

WASHINGTON — Rep. Jack Murtha, who re-ignited the debate over Iraq with a proposal last month to begin a fast drawdown of troops in Iraq, said Wednesday that President Bush has lost credibility with the public over his Iraq policy.

"I'm showing you that I don't see the kind of progress he sees. ... I don't know that you can call him dishonest, but certainly, the public is not buying it," Murtha, D-Pa., said just hours after Bush delivered a speech on economic progress in Iraq.

Murtha renewed his call for redeployment of troops, laying out what he said was another option for victory in Iraq. He said he's convinced that the United States cannot win the war militarily, and prefers their fast removal and the use of diplomatic means to support rebuilding in Iraq.

Murtha is among a number Democratic critics who continue to meet the president's National Strategy for Victory in Iraq with a point-for-point opposition that has helped solidify opposition to the U.S. presence there. Earlier in the day, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi led criticism of the president's plan.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cutnrunmurtha; demlies; disgracedmarine; dopeydems; iraq; saddamreid; saddamsbuddy; slimebag; traitor; treachery; treason; unethicaldemorat
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If any Dems still believe in God, they will be praying for our failure in Iraq.

What despicable traitors they are!!!

1 posted on 12/08/2005 3:20:04 AM PST by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

I saw a clip of Murtha's remarks last night...he suggested we pull out and redeploy in a perimeter at a safe distance, from which we could go back in if need be. He mentioned two places as the perimeter, can't recall either named, but the second -- I must have heard wrong or else Murtha's publicly losing it -- the second was about half a world away from the Middle East. I was busy picking my jaw up off the floor. Maybe the dems will curtail Murtha's speechifying.


2 posted on 12/08/2005 3:38:37 AM PST by hershey
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To: hershey
I believe that Murther mentioned Okinawa. Someone better tell him that it is located in the Pacific Ocean and is pretty far away from Iraq.
3 posted on 12/08/2005 3:41:41 AM PST by mware (That's Christmas with a C, not an X)
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To: hershey

Murtha is my candidate for the First Annual Lord Haw-Haw award. (Katie Couric gets my vote for the First Annual Tokyo Rose award.)


4 posted on 12/08/2005 3:42:54 AM PST by gaspar
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To: Aussie Dasher
"Murtha is among a number Democratic critics who continue to meet the president's National Strategy for Victory in Iraq with a point-for-point opposition that has helped solidify opposition to the U.S. presence there."


I have yet to see the point for point opposition. Show me a document "Democrap Alternative National Strategy for Anything Resembling Victory in Iraq"
5 posted on 12/08/2005 3:44:14 AM PST by NAVY84
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To: Aussie Dasher

Well, it's kinda hard for them to see anything with their heads shoved so firmly up their behinds.


6 posted on 12/08/2005 3:45:56 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Aussie Dasher
"Rep. Jack Murtha, who re-ignited the debate over Iraq with a proposal last month to begin a fast drawdown of troops in Iraq..."

Reignited? There were three people on his side of the page when it came time to vote.

Nothing has been reignited.

The press is trying to keep the story alive because it gives them something to talk about.
7 posted on 12/08/2005 3:46:47 AM PST by AlGone2001 (Two supreme court vacancies. Hopefully more on the way.)
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To: NAVY84
I have yet to see the point for point opposition. Show me a document "Democrap Alternative National Strategy for Anything Resembling Victory in Iraq"

I saw a billboard somewhere in NH last weekend asking people to go to Kerry's website for his "plan for Iraq." Anybody seen it?

8 posted on 12/08/2005 3:48:18 AM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Aussie Dasher
It is truly laughable to hear a DemoRat or just about any politician talk about ‘credibility’. I feel this is one of the major problems with this country. No politicians are ‘credible’ and the MSM quotes them as if they were. Fix this and you will fix a lot!!!
9 posted on 12/08/2005 3:51:05 AM PST by PushinTin
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And how much total time has Murtha and Pelosi spent IN Iraq? They claim to have a better picture than the president, so let them prove their sources.
10 posted on 12/08/2005 3:51:33 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: mware

Yes! Okinawa! Better yet, the moon!


11 posted on 12/08/2005 3:54:05 AM PST by hershey
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To: Aussie Dasher

The dems' reactions are so predictable. Here come the latest round of Iraqi elections and dems have nothing encouraging to say. The last elections and purple fingers held high -- Iraqis who walked for hours braving death threats to vote -- gave them (and the MSM), a stroke. They're down on their knees every night praying for catastrophe because they don't have a clue. How to get back in power when the voters turn you down...play the Vietnam card. It's all they know, that and Watergate. So they play it over and over and don't count the lives lost. Out of their minds.


12 posted on 12/08/2005 4:01:42 AM PST by hershey
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I don't know that you can call him dishonest, but...

I don't know that we can call Murtha a traitor, but...

Murtha renewed his call for redeployment of troops, laying out what he said was another option for victory in Iraq. He said he's convinced that the United States cannot win the war militarily, and prefers their fast removal and the use of diplomatic means to support rebuilding in Iraq.

Oh hell yes Jack, another Vietnam is what you want.
Declare victory, and let the UN handle the rebuilding.

The UN's stellar record can only be compared to that of
the democrats. Losers both.


13 posted on 12/08/2005 4:04:28 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
The reason the liberal bastards are coming out with their usual cut-and-run policy is because they know victory is ours.

By next year the swine will have toned down the rhetoric to save face. They can always count on their idiot followers to forget any inconvenient facts.

14 posted on 12/08/2005 4:05:17 AM PST by Reactionary (Liberals are the Lunatic Fringe of the Lunatic Fringe)
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To: Aussie Dasher

What other conclusion does one expect
from the frustrated Dims? They are
*allways* *WRONG*.

They are still Pissed that they aren't
going to get the french benefits they'd
hung their hopes on.


15 posted on 12/08/2005 4:06:16 AM PST by Baby Driver
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"I'm showing you that I don't see the kind of progress he sees. ...

Murtha could have stopped at, "I'm showing you that I don't see."

16 posted on 12/08/2005 4:09:29 AM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not a strategy”)
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To: Aussie Dasher
The jihad has failed to stop the election of an interim government. It failed to stop the vote on the constitution. It is now apparent they will be unable to derail the Dec. 15 vote. They haven't even been able to alter the TIMETABLE for these events.

The insurgents have accomplished one goal, however; they have succeeded in enlisting the Democratic party to fight for their cause.

What Democrats see is VICTORY for our side in Iraq, and withdrawal is the only way to change the outcome.

17 posted on 12/08/2005 4:15:57 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: Aussie Dasher

My opinion is that if this devolves into a shooting war over here, then the traitorous dimlibs, having proved their loyalty to the enemy, will be targets just as legitimate as the rad muzzies.


18 posted on 12/08/2005 4:19:30 AM PST by Marauder (The height of hypocrisy: Members of congress upset because someone lied to them.)
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To: PushinTin

"No politicians are ‘credible’..."

From the Merriam-Webster online dictionary:

Politician: pol-i-ti-cian
2b: a person primarily interested in political office for selfish or other narrow usually short-sighted reasons.

Statesman: stats-m&n
2: one who exercises political leadership wisely and without narrow partisanship.

Seems like we've got a whole lot of the former and precious few of the latter.


19 posted on 12/08/2005 5:28:56 AM PST by Hornet19
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To: Marauder
You are right..Democrats are traitors...plain and simple...

Its either we fight for our freedom...or we get our heads cut off...its black and white....I don't fall for the "its okay that some get their heads cut off" scenario
20 posted on 12/08/2005 6:05:17 AM PST by Youngman442002
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