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Marine's funeral: Protest possible
Herald News ^ | 12/07/2005 | Tim Waldorf

Posted on 12/07/2005 10:51:15 PM PST by blondee123

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To: DoughtyOne

I believe someone on FR once said w.r.t. Phelps that one heretic does more damage to a religion than a thousand persecutions. I see his point.


21 posted on 12/07/2005 11:07:38 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Note for visitors at Arafat's grave - first dance, THEN pee.)
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To: blondee123

Got any biker groups in the area? Some of them helped in another protest against this "church" at another funeral.


22 posted on 12/07/2005 11:11:57 PM PST by moonpie57 (Fred Howell McMurray, Jr. The man on my POW bracelet.)
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To: garandgal
I tried to find a way to contact the Hells Angels in Chicago, but no email or contact info available on the net.

I don't think we have an American Legion Bikers group around here. We do have the American Legion though. I'll try contacting them in the morning!

23 posted on 12/07/2005 11:12:13 PM PST by blondee123 (Close our borders to illegals! Don't try to appease us!)
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To: moonpie57

Yes, there are some biker groups, but I have no way to contact them, plus it's below zero wind chill here in the daytime, I don't know if they'd go out in that weather. I know they'd want to though.


24 posted on 12/07/2005 11:13:33 PM PST by blondee123 (Close our borders to illegals! Don't try to appease us!)
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To: AZ_Cowboy
Oh, God. Not this idiot again.

Fred Phelps, Westboro's pastor, said soldiers' deaths are God's way of punishing America for its "acceptance of homosexuality."

He's just trying to piss everyone off, isn't he?

25 posted on 12/07/2005 11:14:14 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: blondee123
It is getting closer to a need for Americans to stand up and start dropping this type of vermin in Antarctica!
26 posted on 12/07/2005 11:14:36 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Giving power and money to Congress is like giving liquor and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J. O'Rour)
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To: Slings and Arrows

This is so bad, that it almost looks as if someone who was not a Christian at all, was directing this effort. Perhaps it is a heretic, but I'm not convinced of that.

All of a sudden there are some pretty strange groups coming out of the woodwork, each with a different slant on taking down our nation.

It almost looks as if there were a major conspiracy to do.


27 posted on 12/07/2005 11:15:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: garandgal

good i am glad they were there to help. what a shame the police cant stop these hateful people . how dare they intrude on a family in this time. have these morons have no shame? my sons are not old enough to be in this war but if they were & God forbid were killed... id be in jail because id flip on these evil shameless bunch of morons. i can not believe people would stoop to such levels. good for the bikers, i hope more join in all over the whole country and stop these horrid morons.


28 posted on 12/07/2005 11:15:22 PM PST by pandoraou812
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To: DoughtyOne

I meant that the brand of alleged Christianity he preaches is heretical - in both Jewish and Christian tradition, G-d hates sin, not sinners. I have no idea whether he believes the filth he spews, but it seems quite plausible that Phelps is running a false-flag operation, either for a politcal end or for personal gain.


29 posted on 12/07/2005 11:24:13 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Note for visitors at Arafat's grave - first dance, THEN pee.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
It is getting closer to a need for Americans to stand up

BIG BUMP

30 posted on 12/07/2005 11:25:20 PM PST by bobbyd (Damn, I've been tagged.....)
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To: blondee123

Makes me think of Nobel- and Dynamite!


31 posted on 12/07/2005 11:27:27 PM PST by de Buillion (The skinny turd from MA is a domestic enemy, and he injured himself in VietNam 3 times.)
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To: AZ_Cowboy
Phelps and Company ain't your ordinary Church groups. They're lefty tools for sure.

I really wouldn't characterize Phelps and his group as left wing or right wing. They're simply insane. His whole "church" is simply him and several members of his mutant family.

32 posted on 12/07/2005 11:30:09 PM PST by saquin
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To: blondee123

How does this church even stay open when there is such a fracture between the members?


33 posted on 12/07/2005 11:38:55 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: blondee123

Those lefties ain't no Baptists and that ain't no church!


34 posted on 12/07/2005 11:42:27 PM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: Tx Angel

That ain't a real church, its a fake church made up of this wacko family


35 posted on 12/07/2005 11:43:08 PM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: taxesareforever

The Phelps ARE the church. There are no other members that I know of.


36 posted on 12/07/2005 11:46:53 PM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: blondee123
I'll be there, and God help them if they come near me.

L

37 posted on 12/07/2005 11:51:24 PM PST by Lurker ("Son, there's only two things you need in this world; love and a .45.")
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To: GeronL

The article really does lead a reader to believe that this is a bonafide church which has numerous members. Why can't the media for once lay out all the facts? Oh, that's right, because they are the media they can spin it any way they want.


38 posted on 12/08/2005 12:23:44 AM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: taxesareforever

Remember Mary Mapes definition, thats what its all about for them. Making the news how they want it.


39 posted on 12/08/2005 12:32:54 AM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: AZ_Cowboy
There is a really thorough write-up of the history of Phelps and his cult on the Topeka Capital Journal.

There is also an extensive collection of information on Phelps at Wikipedia.

Some of the more interesting information:

Fred Phelps has engaged in domestic violence, assaulting his wife and beating his children with a mattock handle. The two children, who left the cult, Mark and Nate have residual signs of injuries consistent with such beatings.

Phelps was disbarred as a lawyer for engaging in seriously unethical and even criminal activities. This is really ironic, Phelps is too dishonest to be a lawyer, yet he is a minister!

Phelps may have even been involved in the death of Debbie Valgos. Read that as possibly being murder.

Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church appear to be engaging in a pattern of extortion.

Reading the accounts of the behavior of Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church, one would come to the conclusion that Phelps is operating a continuing criminal enterprise.

40 posted on 12/08/2005 12:33:22 AM PST by punster
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