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Shoe Bomber Alert Preceded Airport Shooting
ABC News ^ | Dec. 7, 2005

Posted on 12/07/2005 8:52:13 PM PST by 11th_VA

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To: I_like_good_things_too

I wish I could believe that--but then the FBI has announced an APB, and it seems to me if they simply wanted to track him, they wouldn't let him know they were looking for him.
You sleep. I can't.


61 posted on 12/07/2005 10:44:14 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: 11th_VA
Strangely, after holding him overnight, airport security in New York released him. The FBI was notified after he was released. Now the FBI has put out a nationwide alert.

Keystone Kops???

62 posted on 12/07/2005 10:44:31 PM PST by Prince Charles
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To: the Real fifi

It may be just a little more complicated than that, but not much. Or it could be just a dumb mistake by the TSA. That's all I want to say publicly, but just think about it a while longer...the entire situation. Then remember: loose lips sink ships.


63 posted on 12/07/2005 10:52:09 PM PST by defenderSD (In a battle of wits against a FReeper, the typical liberal is unarmed.)
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To: 11th_VA

How long before the ACLU states his right to 'pretend to have a bomb' were violated?


64 posted on 12/07/2005 10:55:17 PM PST by Cougar66 (If I had ever wanted a woman to be President, I'd have voted for John Kerry)
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To: defenderSD

Well, I have, and I hope you're right, but I must say my confidence level is not high.


65 posted on 12/07/2005 10:58:34 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: JohnathanRGalt; backhoe; Gucho; All
ON THE NET...

OSINT.INTERNET-HAGANAH.US (ALL AFRICA.COM): "SHOE BOMBER REDUX 3 Suspects Held With Explosives, Wired Shoes" (December 1, 2005) (Read More...)

66 posted on 12/07/2005 11:28:32 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy

Surely we received an international bulletin when those arrests were made and then either TSA was beyond stupid or the story of his release is disinformation.


67 posted on 12/07/2005 11:48:54 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: oceanview
what is TATP made of that he could have stepped in to trigger the false positive?

It is fairly easy to make from readily-obtained chemicals. There is no civilian use for TATP. One of the precursors could conceivably give a false positive, but that seems very, very unlikely.

68 posted on 12/07/2005 11:55:29 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: the Real fifi

Well of course, post 66 and post 1 are two separate incidents.
I just thought I would drop that arrest info in there as a point
of interest.

As to what the TSA knows or doesn't know I wouldn't know.
I would like to hope they at least have the same info we are
reading online.


69 posted on 12/08/2005 12:01:36 AM PST by Cindy
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To: 11th_VA

One of the HS talking heads today said that as this saga was unfolding today in Miami, alerts went out to all U.S. airports.


70 posted on 12/08/2005 12:11:37 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("How soon not now becomes never." - Martin Luther)
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To: the Real fifi

They're not stupid. Since 9/11 U.S. skies have remained safe.


71 posted on 12/08/2005 12:17:03 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("How soon not now becomes never." - Martin Luther)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Well then I hope he is in our custody and singing like a bird and the entire report is disinformation.


72 posted on 12/08/2005 12:19:43 AM PST by the Real fifi
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To: 11th_VA
"Strangely, after holding him overnight, airport security in New York released him."

There is something not kosher here. This Islamic killer is now on the loose. Why?

73 posted on 12/08/2005 12:28:26 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: RedCell
To put a tail on him, perhaps?

Normally you notify the FBI BEFORE you release him

Not after

74 posted on 12/08/2005 12:29:09 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Mo1

Exactly--they would have released him and said they'd made a mistake..they would not have disclosed there was an APB out on him.

The Israeli story indicates that more than the three Ethiopians are suspect:
[quote]A team of detectives sent to Ethiopia to investigate the wired shoes, switches and dry cells returned at the weekend.

They established that a number of people from the suspects' locality had similar shoes but insisted on interrogating the three.

The first suspect was arrested on Tuesday morning while the other two were arrested on Thursday.

Police said yesterday that they expect to make more arrests.[/quote]


75 posted on 12/08/2005 12:34:58 AM PST by the Real fifi
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To: 11th_VA
They said he failed the shoe test 5 times !!!

But that just means he had something that swabbed similar to TATP. They never actually found any TATP on him.

It may well have been a test, he being sent in with trace amounts to test the system.

As far as I know, its pretty hard to walk down the street and accidently step in a puddle of TATP.

76 posted on 12/08/2005 1:23:38 AM PST by adamsjas
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To: 11th_VA

IMO, they don't need to make excuses for the AM in florida, he did what he is trained to do


77 posted on 12/08/2005 2:12:30 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: 11th_VA
WTF .. why did they release him ???

It's the exact same as the infamous catch and release policy that the Border Patrol is forced to use per orders from the hacks in DC

78 posted on 12/08/2005 2:15:51 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: 11th_VA

Release the Egyptian with explosive residue, but cap the crazy American?


79 posted on 12/08/2005 2:22:53 AM PST by NavVet (“Benedict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
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To: Mo1

Ditto.


80 posted on 12/08/2005 3:28:26 AM PST by Cindy
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