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Fox News: Shots fired on American Airlines flight out of Miami
Dec. 7 2005 | Fox

Posted on 12/07/2005 11:28:34 AM PST by YoshiBear

Hope this is not a duplicate. No more details yet Passengers getting off


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To: Tennessee_Bob

geeezuz...


1,201 posted on 12/08/2005 9:19:05 AM PST by samadams2000 (Nothing fills the void of a passing hurricane better than government)
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To: Lizarde

this air marshall should be getting credit for curing this man of his bi-polarism.


1,202 posted on 12/08/2005 9:54:16 AM PST by mfnorman
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To: JeffAtlanta
Exactly my point. This guy was off of the plane and running from law enforcement.

Well, to be fair, he would not have known they were law enforcement, since Sky Marshals wear mufti and attempt to blend in with the other passengers.

1,203 posted on 12/08/2005 11:29:32 AM PST by El Gato
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To: El Gato

Interesting info. Thanks!


1,204 posted on 12/08/2005 11:37:33 AM PST by mcg1969
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To: All

This is a TRUE story...

On Hong Kong airport in a Cathay Pacific flight this guy went and sat on his isle seat. The Window seat was taken by a chinese gentleman....

So our guy started lettle chit chat...Hi How are you ? What do you do for a living..

The Chinese gentleman all of sudden got up and walked off the plane..The police came back and promptly arrested our guy....They took him to a detention room and started asking questions.....At last asked him "Why did you tell the chinese gentleman that you are a Bosnian terrorist ??" ...Our guy said "what ?? I told him I am a bass guitarist.."


1,205 posted on 12/08/2005 12:58:10 PM PST by MunnaP
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To: All

I understand that my joke is in poor taste..but I just could not resist it....I am sorry...


1,206 posted on 12/08/2005 12:59:38 PM PST by MunnaP
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To: pitinkie
An Egyptian flew into JFK and tested positive 5 times for explosives on his shoes..he said he was a student and going to Des Moines. They let him go and cant find him and he is not a student where he said he was...go figure!

Oh jolly.

1,207 posted on 12/08/2005 1:03:15 PM PST by El Gato
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To: JeffAtlanta
My point was that only someone that is mentally disturbed or wants to commit "suicide by cop" announces to a law enforcement officer that has the drop on him that he has a bomb.

But, as I understand it, that's not what happened. The law enforcement guys didn't get into it until he ran up the aisle announcing that he had a bomb. The LEOs were plainclothes, so a real terrorist wouldn't know, at least not with any certainty, that they were marshals, until they yelled at him. At that point, a real terrorist would likely have tried to set his bomb off right then, happens all the time in Iraq and Israel. That's what the marshals thought was happening.

1,208 posted on 12/08/2005 1:09:26 PM PST by El Gato
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To: El Gato

Today they have changed their story..now they say they know where he is and there never was a nationwide alert for him..yeah right...CYA


1,209 posted on 12/08/2005 1:31:48 PM PST by pitinkie (revenge will be sweet)
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To: annieokla

Trolling, aren't you.


1,211 posted on 12/08/2005 6:55:27 PM PST by Darksheare (Bonafide Henchman.)
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To: BurbankKarl
The Deceased and Wife.....


1,212 posted on 12/08/2005 7:13:10 PM PST by cmsgop ( Bill Clinton's License Plate..... "Herpes 1")
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To: El Gato

Actions have consequences. . .or 'reap. . .sow'. It began with going off the 'meds'. . .the beginning of a suicide mission. . .


1,213 posted on 12/08/2005 7:18:26 PM PST by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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To: wideawake

Unforunately, the only fatality was of a panicking man who wanted to get off an airplane.


1,214 posted on 12/09/2005 7:09:04 AM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: swain_forkbeard

Well, that was his own stupid fault.


1,215 posted on 12/09/2005 7:13:07 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Well, I'm not entirely convinced of that. Of course, I wasn't there, so I really don't know. What we all heard at first came from the Feds. Now, we are beginning to hear from people on the plane. At least some of them, the people who actually witnessed the events, don't think the guy should have been shot.

But I was replying to your hope that anyone hurt would be a terrorist. And that just was not the case.

Clearly, the security measures were capable of identifiying and neutralizing an emotionially imbalanced man trying to leave an airplane and take his bags with him, while his wife ran behing him. Obviously, these measures were incapable of distinguishing between such a situation and an actual terrorist threat. Not good.


1,216 posted on 12/09/2005 7:28:34 AM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: swain_forkbeard
Clearly, the security measures were capable of identifiying and neutralizing an emotionially imbalanced man trying to leave an airplane and take his bags with him, while his wife ran behing him.

I disagree. This can be emulated as a ruse by individuals who are not emotionally unbalanced. Only a trained psychologist can make this determination and it would probably take a psychologist more than 10-15 seconds to be certain.

there is no practical way an air marshal could make such a determination within the few seconds he has to react.

1,217 posted on 12/09/2005 7:32:52 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake

I don't undertand what there is to disagree with. The part you quoted is a non-judgemental description of what happened, as far as I can tell.


1,218 posted on 12/09/2005 7:45:10 AM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: anyone

EVERY " Story " has been changing now concerning this since the person's " problems " have come forth.

Still doe NOT change One thing--unless you ARE a libbie and then you ARE allowed to " Re-Write everything you say along with HISTORY too while you are at it!


Forget " QUAGMIRE " Now !!!

NEXT comments you are going to be hearing will be repeating what Katie Kommie Kouric said to the Air Marshall--but with a DIFFERENT Liberal Twists,

"...WHY can't our SOLDIERS shoot the Terrorists in the FINGERS, or in their HANDS??? instead of a way that killes them??..."

Then her NEXT question, AFTER being told that they are not TRAINED that way because of the risks they could MISS and make the situation worse, would be,

"...so...can't we CHANGE the way our soldiers are TRAINED, so they are TRAINED NOT to KILL the Terrorists ???..."

Just wait!! It's coming!!! Nothing like listening to the ignorant speak --and since the dems have been out there the last 8 years that is ALL you have heard from them.

Darth AirBorne


1,219 posted on 12/09/2005 8:14:31 AM PST by AirBorn
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To: wideawake

I have to say, you are exactly right. The terrorist are using old ladies, woman and children to carry bombs....conduct tests of security procedures before an operation.

Terrorist are not exactly of sound mind anyway. Only psychologist can tell the difference between criminal mind and a Bi-Polar individual. That's why they go to college and a higher education to get paid the big bucks. Police and Security training only scratches the surface. You have seconds to make a decision, not enough time to see ink spots, and talk about your childhood. :) I'm with you wideawake.


1,220 posted on 12/09/2005 4:25:42 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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