Let's do it the right way. Pass this bill and THEN consider additional legislation that can deal with guest workers. They should only be granted legal status with significant background checks and monitoring.
"The party's over
It's time to call it a day
They've burst your pretty balloon
And taken the moon away
It's time to wind up the masquerade
Just make your mind up the piper must be paid"
- Nat King Cole
So, let him veto it.
Because they have read the handwriting on the wall and want to retain their elected positions.
If illegal presence in the US becomes a felony, does that mean that anyone who has entered the US illegally or remained here illegally would be ineligible for citizenship or legal residence?
But despite insistence from President Bush that any immigration measure must also create a way for America's estimated 11 million illegal immigrants to temporarily live and work in the United States...
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I would be alot, that if this bill gets passed, it will be the FIRST BILL THAT BUSH PUTS A VETO ON. His rabid need to provide an amnesty for the illegal criminals in this country is sickening and very revealing as to his agenda.
This is a smokescreen designed to take immigration off the table as a political issue for a few more election days. If they were serious about it, they would want to put it in effect yesterday.
The House can't get a guest worker through. But the senate can.
So they're going to pass this warm and fuzzy "increased penalty" legislation in the house with no "guest worker" (amnesty) program.
On the Senate side, they're going to pass the "guest worker" amnesty program.
Then when the camera's are off and nobody's watching, the "conference committee" is going to axe the penalties and include the amnesty and viola, it's done.
It's all spelled out here.
We been stabbed in the back, we just haven't felt it yet.
It's all the same Sensennbrenner plan.
So President Bush finds his veto pen just in time for something really terrible, huh? CFR wasn't bad enough for a veto, but this is?
Sheesh. Read my tagline.
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,
1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.
If Frist has the balls to use parlimentary procedure to get it through, does it have the votes to pass?
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Tom Tancredo at the Mexico border
Come on, Senator Byrd. Do your stuff!
Start building the fence.
It should be made a felony for Criminals who overstay their visas and Invaders.
I believe we should give amnesty to these poor CRIMINALS or INVADERS.
This should be a 2 week amnesty to get the heck out of our Country.
The ones who ignore this amnesty should be buried in a tent city jail and fined $10,000 or buried elsewhere.
All aiders and abettors of these CRIMINALS or INVADERS should get 1 year in a tent city jail and a $10,000 fine for each CRIMINAL aided.
Those in government should be the first ones charged.
If so how? I'm not against making illegal immigration a felony, at least if the immigrants don't immediately turn themselves in if they are comming to seek aslyum.
I just don't see how making it a felony will reduce the many bottlenecks in deporting illegal aliens.
Under the House bill, all business owners would be required to verify the eligibility of every employee.
They already are. Why is this proposal going to work better than the last ones in that area? The IRS already knows when they are given a invalid Social Security Number or one that doesn't match the name, but they don't do anything about it, and if they did our courts don't have the ability to process more deportation hearings.
Sounds like more meaningless pandering to the anti-business crowd.
All other businesses would have six years. Verification would be done through the Department of Homeland Security.
More bloat and beaurocracy. You should need a SSN and a valid government ID to get a job, and that's it.
Make the IRS do their job and make the government do it's job when issuing identification and the problem is solved. We don't need the DHS collecting more data about citizens.
The bill also contains several provisions that would make it easier to deport illegal immigrants, including making illegal presence in the United States a felony.
I guess I need to find a copy of this bill and read it. I just don't see how making illegal immigration a felony makes it easier to deport illegal immigrants. It's probably not a bad idea, though I distrustful of the government's tendency to make more and more things felonies.
I find it really irritating that the media doesn't like to a copy of the bill in question or at least provide a bill number. I suspect they don't even read the bill and just write their stories based or press releases and statements by legislators which are often misleading.
Journalism appears to have become nearly a lost art.
Aides said approximately 40 percent of all illegal immigrants entered legally and overstayed visas.
That's something I didn't know. It means that border security imporvements can help significantly, but without efforts in the interior of the country as well, we're not going to make the kind of progress we need to make.
The House Judiciary Committee is expected to vote on the bill Thursday. But advocates on both sides of the issue are questioning why GOP leaders are insistent on pushing through legislation now on an issue that has raised hackles for decades.
Maybe they started listening to their constituants. Maybe the Minutemen have been successful at getting the public focused on this issue.
In a bid to bypass critics, the Senate will pass the plan and then merge it with a House bill, observers say.Washington - Republican leaders will try to pass President Bush's controversial guest-worker proposal without putting it to a direct vote in the House.
Observers say the new GOP strategy that begins today is for the House to deal only with the more politically palatable issue of increasing border security and clamping down on employers. Republican leaders then will let the Senate pass some form of a guest-worker plan.
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