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Bill would speed up deporting illegal migrants (makes illegal entry a FELONY!)
The Daily Bulletin ^ | 12/7/2005 | Lisa Friedman

Posted on 12/07/2005 9:40:00 AM PST by Smogger

WASHINGTON -- Setting the stage for a bitter pre-Christmas fight, top House lawmakers introduced legislation Tuesday that would make it easier to deport legal -- as well as illegal -- immigrants and mandate a $360 million employee verification program. But despite insistence from President Bush that any immigration measure must also create a way for America's estimated 11 million illegal immigrants to temporarily live and work in the United States, the bill does not include such a provision. And while Democrats and some Republicans assailed the bill -- by Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wisc., and Peter King, R-N.Y. -- as impractical, they acknowledged the House will likely pass it.

Meanwhile, the Senate is expected to pass its own immigration legislation -- including a guest-worker provision that would address Bush's demands -- virtually ensuring an even more acrimonious debate next year when the House and Senate try to mesh legislation.

"The House may very well pass a totally unworkable proposal that will make some people feel good and give them a platform to demagogue on," said Rep. Howard Berman, D-Van Nuys.

But immigration-control advocates hailed the measure -- particularly its employment verification provisions -- as long overdue.

"This bill is actually worth talking about because it's not a smoke screen," said Mark Krikorian, director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington, D.C., think tank that advocates a reduction in immigration.

"If it didn't have this but it had increased penalties for things like alien smuggling, it would be irrelevant, a cover for amnesty," he said.

"This bill does all the right things," added Rep. Elton Gallegly, R-Thousand Oaks.

Under the House bill, all business owners would be required to verify the eligibility of every employee.

Federal, state and local government employers -- as well as the military and private employers at critical infrastructure sites like power plants -- would have three years to check the eligibility status of their employees.

All other businesses would have six years. Verification would be done through the Department of Homeland Security.

Gallegly said he will introduce an amendment that would force employers at critical infrastructure sites to start verifying within six months.

Sensenbrenner aides said creating mandatory employee verification, which now exists as a voluntary pilot program, would cost about $60 million a year over six years.

The bill also contains several provisions that would make it easier to deport illegal immigrants, including making illegal presence in the United States a felony.

Currently, while entering the United States illegally is a crime, merely being in the country illegally is only a civil offense. Aides said approximately 40 percent of all illegal immigrants entered legally and overstayed visas.

The House Judiciary Committee is expected to vote on the bill Thursday. But advocates on both sides of the issue are questioning why GOP leaders are insistent on pushing through legislation now on an issue that has raised hackles for decades.

"The leadership wants Republican congressmen to go home over Christmas break and be able to say they're doing something about this," Krikorian said.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; borders; bush; gop; house; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; sensenbrenner
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To: Mamzelle
"So, let him veto it."

To quote the President's own words vis-a-vis the UN, he's quickly making himself irrelevant on the issue of illegal immigration and border defense.
21 posted on 12/07/2005 10:12:58 AM PST by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: omega4412

Knowing ole Jorge, it would only apply to new entrants, not the 20 million already here.


22 posted on 12/07/2005 10:14:26 AM PST by chris1
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To: Smogger

If Frist has the balls to use parlimentary procedure to get it through, does it have the votes to pass?


23 posted on 12/07/2005 10:15:32 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: savedbygrace

Would that not be the biggest kick in the rear! GWB uses his first veto on an immigration bill to hard on illegals???

I can't wait till he is out of there. I prefer the gridlock of the late 90's to this.


24 posted on 12/07/2005 10:16:25 AM PST by chris1
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


25 posted on 12/07/2005 10:18:20 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: America's Resolve

Yep, you got it. Same old politics at its usual worst. They'll probably sneak in their payraises too.


26 posted on 12/07/2005 10:19:08 AM PST by demkicker
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To: Smogger
Well Congress finally getting around to passing a 'bill' to do what we allllll thought was already the law, does show who has been behind the allowance and in some cases the encouragement of an illegal invasion.

I do not blame President Bush for taking this "guest worker" approach, as were he to demand the legislation and dollars to send back to country of origin each and every illegal, there would be some protesting he was reenacting Hitler.

I am sure that McCain and Kennedy will make sure there are no torturous barriers allowed along our borders.
27 posted on 12/07/2005 10:21:52 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: demkicker

When some of the bots claim that GWB is not at fault on this, I really have to laugh. He is. After 9/11 he could have easily tightened everything up and everyone would have applauded. Instead, he is back to his usual garbage and bilge. Honestly, he has only his self to blame for his low approval numbers.

Even though I volunteered for him twice, were someone to ask me right now, I would dissaprove of his performance. Its embarassing in fact that a GOP president would do some of things he has done thus far. CFR anyone??? Drug bill anyone???

WTF???????????????


28 posted on 12/07/2005 10:22:09 AM PST by chris1
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To: Just mythoughts

GWB is worse than Clinton on this issue. In fact, this is the one issue he seems most ardent about. What a joke!


29 posted on 12/07/2005 10:23:51 AM PST by chris1
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To: chris1
"GWB is worse than Clinton on this issue. In fact, this is the one issue he seems most ardent about. What a joke!"


NOT even close it was the Clintons and algore who opened the flood gates to illegals and even allowed any and all in without investigation, election 1996!!!

Congress did NOTHING about it. Now I am not please with the approach President Bush has taken but I hardly hold him responsible in the manner in which he has responded to what obviously was the willingness of Clintons and Congress.

How many have died in this illegal invasion, and how many states and cities have made it their policy to give sanctuary to illegals??? This illegal invasion has the most religious component to it of allll issues and crisis this nations faces.
30 posted on 12/07/2005 10:29:39 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Madeleine Ward
Making illegal immigration a felony - with real consequences will reduce the incentive to enter the country illegally. Capacity problem solved.
31 posted on 12/07/2005 10:31:43 AM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: Smogger

And we should remove this crazy law of anyone born in this country, even if the mother was passing through or is an illegal alien, is automatically a citizen


32 posted on 12/07/2005 10:33:30 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Just mythoughts

Whatever the case may be, I am disgusted with what it has done to this country.

GWB to me has ZZZEEERRROOO credibility on this issue as he showed his true alleginances after 9/11 and doing absolutely nothing about this invasion.

Its so bad that everytime I go shopping or out, it is like being in a foreign nation. It was NEVER as bad as it has been in the past few years.


Were it FEDERAL policy to get rid of these people on the spot and send them home to THEIR country, the cities and states could not get away with the safe harbor policies you speak of.

Additionally, were you to engage in any of the crimes so often committed by illegals, you yourself would be jailed.


33 posted on 12/07/2005 10:34:33 AM PST by chris1
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To: Smogger
http://tancredo.house.gov/irc/oldgallery.html

http://tancredo.house.gov/irc/gallery.html

 

Tom Tancredo at the Mexico border

34 posted on 12/07/2005 10:39:02 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: cripplecreek

I agree with what you said. I'm in the process of legally immigrating to the U.S. and it is an expensive, time consuming affair where a single, little mistake on a form can have you removed from the U.S. The rules are strict and the consequences serious if you try to do things legally, but illegals are virtually ignored by the system. In my personal opinion, Immigration enforcement is tough on the legal immigrants because they are easier to catch.


35 posted on 12/07/2005 10:42:45 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: chris1
We are talking about human beings, and there is this belief that Republicans could care less about human beings.

Now these states and cities are making their policy in spite of what is federal legislation and then these states are expecting the federal government to pick up the tab.

I would likened it to a rebellion from within. So we have the "humanity" issue being used from the educational, political, and economic institutions not even to mention the religious picture.

Congress was the body with authority to put a stop to it years ago and they have sat silent and refused to address the issue for decades.

President Bush has been likened to Hitler/Nazi like the world over, there is a segment of the leftists that are ready to spill blood in our own streets and that is just a fact.

I have no problem holding President Bush accountable for his lack of leadership, but I assure you he is NOT the most accountable in the grand scheme of things. Let's factor in the Judicial Branch, and Congress as well, they are coequal in our system of governance.
36 posted on 12/07/2005 10:46:57 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: chris1
I hear you loud and clear. W is a one worlder just like his daddy, and there should be no doubt about it after 9/11 and the free flow of illegals and terrorists ALLOWED to enter our country since that tragic day.

Years ago a friend of mine saw a map of the future by the U.N. One of these days, my state, Texas, will be in a "zone" along with Mexico. The U.S. as we know it, will be unrecognizable. Hell, right now there is a border hospital that boldly advertises it serves Mexico AND the U.S.!

Our sovereignty will incrementally disappear as fast as you can say, "No, I'm not wearing a tin foil hat!"
37 posted on 12/07/2005 10:48:17 AM PST by demkicker
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To: doc30
The attorney who advised us throughout the process said that our costs and fees probably subsidize immigration attorneys for at least ten illegals seeking to stay in this country.
38 posted on 12/07/2005 10:48:32 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: doc30
Welcome to the America! We need more people like you who have the decency to follow the rules.
39 posted on 12/07/2005 10:55:42 AM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: Smogger
Meanwhile, the Senate is expected to pass its own immigration legislation -- including a guest-worker provision...

Come on, Senator Byrd. Do your stuff!

40 posted on 12/07/2005 10:58:29 AM PST by Plutarch
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