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Poll finds broad approval of terrorist torture. Most in U.S., ....say torture justified
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| Updated: 9:29 p.m. ET Dec. 6, 2005
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Posted on 12/07/2005 5:48:52 AM PST by .cnI redruM
WASHINGTON - Most Americans and a majority of people in Britain, France and South Korea say torturing terrorism suspects is justified at least in rare instances, according to AP-Ipsos polling.
The United States has drawn criticism from human rights groups and many governments, especially in Europe, for its treatment of terror suspects. President Bush and other top officials have said the U.S. does not torture, but some suspects in American custody have alleged they were victims of severe mistreatment.
The polling, in the United States and eight of its closest allies, found that in Canada, Mexico and Germany people are divided on whether torture is ever justified. Most people opposed torture under any circumstances in Spain and Italy.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: gwot; islam; morals; muslim; poll; terror; terrorist; torture; wot
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People to McCain - "We expect our country to do whatever is necessary to prevail. Whatever is necessary."
To: .cnI redruM
HAHA!!
Take that MEDIA!!!!
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posted on
12/07/2005 5:50:10 AM PST
by
Dog
Comment #3 Removed by Moderator
To: .cnI redruM
McCain must have the absolute worst advisors known to science. They know how to get on the wrong side of nearly every issue.
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posted on
12/07/2005 5:52:35 AM PST
by
capt. norm
(Beware of the "White-Flag Democrats"...we all know who they are.)
To: capt. norm
I'm sure George Allan and Mitt Romney recommended each and every one of them to Senator John.
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posted on
12/07/2005 5:53:33 AM PST
by
.cnI redruM
(Murtha - What happens when patriots turn into Democrats.)
To: .cnI redruM
If a terrorist had information that could save thousands or tens of thousands of lives, there is no question as to what should be done. All other questions are rendered obsolete after considering this one vital question.
To: .cnI redruM
Since they have license to kill to defeat the enemy, they should be understood to have license to torture if doing so will help defeat the enemy, directly or indirectly.
HF
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posted on
12/07/2005 5:55:26 AM PST
by
holden
(holden on'a'na truth, de whole truth, 'n nuttin' but de truth)
To: conservativecorner
RE: Charles Krauthammer's ticking bomb analogy. I wish had that link handy.
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posted on
12/07/2005 5:57:09 AM PST
by
.cnI redruM
(Murtha - What happens when patriots turn into Democrats.)
To: capt. norm
You got that right. This guy seems to always come down on the wrong side of every issue. I predict that if "Wrongway McCain" was ever to get the republican presidential nomination that the democrats win the white house.
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:00:28 AM PST
by
2001convSVT
("People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence")
To: .cnI redruM
McCain can outlaw torture of terrorists in home state of ARIZONA if he wants to. But - when it comes to the entire nation, I don't trust him to always do the 'right thing' when it comes to the defense of all the U.S. citizens!
To: .cnI redruM
Well, I didn't need a poll to tell me this.
I do find it interesting AP/IPSOS couldn't manufacture another result. This clearly isn't what they wanted.
Too bad McCain and the cowardly Republicans that will not challenge him, saving nine, would rather protect terrorists against the will, more importantly, SAFETY of the public.
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:00:39 AM PST
by
Soul Seeker
(Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
To: .cnI redruM
Most in U.S., ....say torture justified
And this means what exactly? Most Americans support abortion, so I suppose that makes it right.
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:02:42 AM PST
by
sheltonmac
(QUIS CUSTODIET IPSOS CUSTODES)
To: conservativecorner
Hi All-
"...If a terrorist had information that could save thousands or tens of thousands of lives, there is no question as to what should be done..."
You're 100% exactly correct. Imagine for a moment if we had captured Mohammad Atta a few days before the September 11th terrorist attacks and knew that he had information about an upcoming attack. It would have been morally wrong for us not to utilize coercion/torture in order to spare the lives of those 3000 innocent Americans that died that morning.
~ Blue Jays ~
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:03:20 AM PST
by
Blue Jays
(Rock Hard, Ride Free)
To: 2001convSVT
I predict that if "Wrongway McCain" was ever to get the republican presidential nomination that the democrats win the white house.
That is part of what MSM and Hillary are hoping. They is why MSM keeps showing McCain as the 'frontrunner', etc.
I don't see McCain getting very far in the primaries before he has a Deaniac-type meltdown, anyway.
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:03:55 AM PST
by
TomGuy
To: TomGuy
Can you imagine a Dean vs. McCain in a debate? I'd like to lock both men in the same office and tell each one they were in charge.
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:05:34 AM PST
by
.cnI redruM
(Murtha - What happens when patriots turn into Democrats.)
To: sheltonmac
Most Americans support abortion in very limited instances. The polls are always referendums on whether the practice should be outlawed entirely.
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:06:50 AM PST
by
.cnI redruM
(Murtha - What happens when patriots turn into Democrats.)
To: conservativecorner
that could save thousands or tens of thousands of livesOne is more than enough for me.
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:08:23 AM PST
by
Raycpa
To: 2001convSVT
RINO's must be wrong most of the time. Republicrats play to their constituencies to get reelected. A wet finger in the wind is all they need. Conservatives do what is right based on faith and law. Libs are ideology driven to Marxism.
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:11:24 AM PST
by
EQAndyBuzz
(Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
To: sheltonmac
Most Americans support abortion, so I suppose that makes it right.Everyone but the most dense know its wrong to tie our troops hands when fighting an enemy bent on destroying us. McCain and others grabbed onto this anti-terrorism, not because they thought it was right but because they thought it scored political points.
The problem that this poll shows is that those political points are not there. The problem with abortion is that it is both wrong yet many support it and can be used to obtain political advantage.
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:12:12 AM PST
by
Raycpa
To: sheltonmac
Hi sheltonmac-
What are your feelings about using coercion/torture on a committed Islamic terrorist to obtain attack information if the life of your mother, father, sister, brother, husband, wife, son, daughter, boyfriend, or girlfriend is on the line?
Should those gentle innocents die because the U.S. doesn't wish to employ certain interrogation techniques?
~ Blue Jays ~
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posted on
12/07/2005 6:12:43 AM PST
by
Blue Jays
(Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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