Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Why Fight Over Intelligent Design?
Foxnews.com/Cato ^ | November 22, 2005 | Andrew J. Coulson

Posted on 12/06/2005 11:55:32 AM PST by MRMEAN

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 261-271 next last
To: <1/1,000,000th%
it will tweak scientists out of their lairs and get them back into the public arena.

Some scientists prefer to hide out with their books and research. We get to ignore much of the world. Not sure why I hang out on these threads--kind of addicting really.

61 posted on 12/06/2005 12:38:25 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: MRMEAN

This makes sense to me.


62 posted on 12/06/2005 12:39:45 PM PST by Tribune7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tallhappy
It harms actual science more than anything for them to distort and make an idol of it.

Many don't understand that once you make relativism acceptable, if not the norm, many will see science as something to be manipulated for their chosen end, which will then make many others cynical about science.

63 posted on 12/06/2005 12:44:16 PM PST by Tribune7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: My2Cents
"There are too many PhDs and careers riding on evolution's monopoly. From the perspective of the evolutionists, this has less to do with "science," and is really more of a turf battle.

Don't be ______. You conspiracy theorists make me laugh. Do you seriously think those PhDs that currently support evolution are too stupid to make money using a different theory?

64 posted on 12/06/2005 12:44:24 PM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: bahblahbah
Trying to claim that introducing ID ammounts to dumbing down science standards is silly.

On the contrary, for ID to be considered science, the definition must be re-written so far as to be meaningless.

Perhaps you're unaware that the foremost proponent of ID admitted on the stand that his definition of "science" also encompasses Astrology?

65 posted on 12/06/2005 12:45:03 PM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: Coyoteman

I've learned a lot of biology on these threads over the past 5 years or so.

And I've met lots of wonderful people (cyber-met?).

;)


66 posted on 12/06/2005 12:48:51 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: Tribune7
This makes sense to me.

Evem though the author comes from those dirty atheist libertarians at the Cato Institute? :)

67 posted on 12/06/2005 12:51:49 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow (Sneering condescension.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: Senator Bedfellow

I agree with Cato on most things. Not all libertarians are atheists. Or even dirty. :-)


68 posted on 12/06/2005 12:55:23 PM PST by Tribune7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: MRMEAN

I like this idea.


69 posted on 12/06/2005 12:55:23 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Exalt the Lord our God, and worship at His footstool; He is holy. Ps 99:5)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Paleo Conservative

Also we have a terribly designed lower back. What engineer starting with a clean sheet would have designed the human back so that we would be susceptible to herniated discs and other problems?


Could be that the so called creator was a democrat.


70 posted on 12/06/2005 12:55:24 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: Regicide

I guess our noses could have been designed upturned so we could catch bird droppings with them. Is that what you would prefer?


71 posted on 12/06/2005 12:58:05 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: highball; doc30; Stultis

One of the primary theorems is that living things started out as mere self replicating amino acids and through an extremely long process of total random accidents that cannot be explained, became single celled organisms, then multi-celled organism, then eventually human beings.

Also, we are supposed to believe that evolution went from self replicating amino acids to trillions and trillions of extremely specialized cells working together in the mere blink of 4.5 billion years. How many changes must one undertake to complete the transformation from amoeba-like blob to human being? A million? Probably more like a billion or even much more.

So, which is it? Did it happen slowly and gradually or suddenly in bursts as must happen?

No matter what you say, evolution is a belief system whose theories CANNOT be tested.


72 posted on 12/06/2005 12:59:38 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: jec41
Also we have a terribly designed lower back. What engineer starting with a clean sheet would have designed the human back so that we would be susceptible to herniated discs and other problems?

Could be that the so called creator was a democrat.

Probably stopped for a union break at a critical time (seniority, you know).

73 posted on 12/06/2005 1:01:49 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: Tribune7

I suspect that statement would be rather contentious over there on the anti-E side of the aisle, which makes it quite refreshing to hear. Not to put too fine of a point on it, but if you listened to some folks, you'd swear that Cato was chaired by Anton LaVey :)


74 posted on 12/06/2005 1:02:00 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow (Sneering condescension.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 68 | View Replies]

To: doc30

Re faith v. reason, I just finished `Aristotle's Children', by Richard Rubenstein, Harcourt 2003. Good read.
An interesting point, people eventually got so tired of being asking to accept things on faith--"Faith is believing what you know ain't so." Twain--that they decided to take the Bible literally. And there's nothing wrong with that.
Aristotle thought the sun revolved around the earth.
Other than that, as the sub-title says: Christians, Muslims and Jews rediscovered ancient wisdom and illuminated the dark ages.
Faith and reason can be reconciled, I think.


75 posted on 12/06/2005 1:03:10 PM PST by OkieDoke
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: VadeRetro

That is so we can talk. It is a compromise: talk or choke.


76 posted on 12/06/2005 1:03:14 PM PST by RightWhale (Not transferable -- Good only for this trip)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

Comment #77 Removed by Moderator

To: b_sharp

Most pHD's are working in colleges and universities and make relatively low wages. And most pHD's in colleges and universities are extremely liberal.


78 posted on 12/06/2005 1:04:47 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: blowfish

Is it worse that parading bananas and condoms and teaching "safe sex and pretending that it is helping curb problems of teen sex and pregnancy?


79 posted on 12/06/2005 1:08:21 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: Blood of Tyrants
One of the primary theorems is that living things started out as mere self replicating amino acids and through an extremely long process of total random accidents that cannot be explained, became single celled organisms, then multi-celled organism, then eventually human beings.

"Theorems" are concepts in mathematics, not science. And there is no "theory" that states all of the above. If you are so ignorant of science as to make the absurd claim such as above, then you have no credibility in this discussion.
80 posted on 12/06/2005 1:09:02 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 261-271 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson