Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Well, this interesting...
1 posted on 12/06/2005 6:28:54 AM PST by GOPGuide
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-26 next last
To: GOPGuide
Another kick in the teeth to legal immigrants by El Busho and the other cowardly republicans.
2 posted on 12/06/2005 6:32:56 AM PST by Mulch (tm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: GOPGuide
Senator Byrd stopped Bush's 2001 Amnesty for Illegals on a technicality.

May the ole Byrd do it again.

[What is wrong with Bush that he keeps trying to reward illegals? Stuck on Stup..........????]
3 posted on 12/06/2005 6:34:45 AM PST by TomGuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: GOPGuide
The elites do not live with the results of many of the measures that pass..Bush & Family protected behind the Secret service for life, Somehow I think conservatives will create a fire storm just like we did with Miers.
Vote all the BUMS (RINOS) out.
4 posted on 12/06/2005 6:35:32 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: GOPGuide; gubamyster; HiJinx

Underhanded Crooks.

If they try this, I hope every last one of them get voted out of the offices they currently abuse.


6 posted on 12/06/2005 7:02:47 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: gubamyster
BOHICA ping

Observers say the new GOP strategy BOHICA scheme that begins today is for the House to deal only with the more politically palatable issue of increasing border security and clamping down on employers. Republican leaders then will let the Senate pass some form of a guest-worker plan.

7 posted on 12/06/2005 7:05:21 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Lobbyist

Ping


9 posted on 12/06/2005 7:06:24 AM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: GOPGuide

DONT even think about it, GOP!


10 posted on 12/06/2005 7:07:31 AM PST by Buffettfan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: GOPGuide

If this is how it goes down, The GOP will be merely a memory in a few years. For this abomination, I WILL move over to the Constitution Party.

Here is the Constitution Party's Immigration Platform:

Immigration

We affirm the integrity of the international borders of the United States and the Constitutional authority and duty of the federal government to guard and to protect those borders, including the regulation of the numbers and of the qualifications of immigrants into the country.

Each year approximately one million legal immigrants and almost as many illegal aliens enter the United States. These immigrants - including illegal aliens - have been made eligible for various kinds of public assistance, including housing, education, Social Security, and legal services. This unconstitutional drain on the federal Treasury is having a severe and adverse impact on our economy, increasing the cost of government at federal, state, and local levels, adding to the tax burden, and stressing the fabric of society. The mass importation of people with low standards of living threatens the wage structure of the American worker and the labor balance in our country.

We oppose the abuse of the H-1B and L-1 visa provisions of the immigration act which are displacing American workers with foreign.

We favor a moratorium on immigration to the United States, except in extreme hardship cases or in other individual special circumstances, until the availability of all federal subsidies and assistance be discontinued, and proper security procedures have been instituted to protect against terrorist infiltration.

We also insist that every individual group and/or private agency which requests the admission of an immigrant to the U.S., on whatever basis, be required to commit legally to provide housing and sustenance for such immigrants, bear full responsibility for the economic independence of the immigrants, and post appropriate bonds to seal such covenants.

The Constitution Party demands that the federal government restore immigration policies based on the practice that potential immigrants will be disqualified from admission to the U.S. if, on the grounds of health, criminality, morals, or financial dependence, they would impose an improper burden on the United States, any state, or any citizen of the United States.

We oppose the provision of welfare subsidies and other taxpayer-supported benefits to illegal aliens, and reject the practice of bestowing U.S. citizenship on children born to illegal alien parents while in this country.

We oppose any extension of amnesty to illegal aliens. We call for the use of U.S. troops to protect the states against invasion.

We oppose bilingual ballots. We insist that those who wish to take part in the electoral process and governance of this nation be required to read and comprehend basic English as a precondition of citizenship. We support English as the official language for all governmental business by the United States.

(From: http://www.constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php#Immigration)


11 posted on 12/06/2005 7:10:16 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: GOPGuide
How about a guest worker program for people who want to replace out spineless members of the House and Senate? I'm sure they would "serve" for less that the $100,000 + we're paying these bozo's now -- and maybe they'd help keep the illegals out...
12 posted on 12/06/2005 7:22:49 AM PST by GOPJ (Guest Worker Programs don't reflect our values. Say "NO" to second class citizens & slavery lite.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: GOPGuide
They are determined to push this through even if it's underhanded. Shame on Republicans for being as chicken shit as demoncrats on tough issues. The base doesn't agree with an Amnesty Program, and the Party will know of our displeasure in Nov. 06!
14 posted on 12/06/2005 7:29:42 AM PST by conservativecorner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: GOPGuide

Email/call your Congressman, the President, and Ken Mehlman and let them know this is unacceptable, that if this happens they will pay! No more donations or votes to ANYONE that lets them back-door this. They should lose ALL support if this happens.

chairman@gop.com


29 posted on 12/06/2005 8:47:06 AM PST by sheana
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


30 posted on 12/06/2005 8:58:20 AM PST by gubamyster
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: GOPGuide
Republican leaders will try to pass President Bush's controversial guest-worker proposal without putting it to a direct vote in the House.

Observers say the new GOP strategy that begins today is for the House to deal only with the more politically palatable issue of increasing border security and clamping down on employers. Republican leaders then will let the Senate pass some form of a guest-worker plan.

Of course this will result in rewarding lawbreakers with an amnesty. More illegals to invade our borders. More illegal cheap labor. More NAFTA, CAFTA, FTAA and CFR.

33 posted on 12/06/2005 9:17:24 AM PST by afnamvet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Czar; Borax Queen; Spiff; Travis McGee; Itzlzha
You seen this yet????
In a bid to bypass critics, the Senate will pass the plan and then merge it with a House bill, observers say. Washington - Republican leaders will try to pass President Bush's controversial guest-worker proposal without putting it to a direct vote in the House.

Observers say the new GOP strategy that begins today is for the House to deal only with the more politically palatable issue of increasing border security and clamping down on employers. Republican leaders then will let the Senate pass some form of a guest-worker plan.

After that vote, senators and House members will merge the House's border security bill with the Senate's legislation in closed-door meetings.


34 posted on 12/06/2005 9:20:44 AM PST by nicmarlo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: GOPGuide

Constitution party looking good, pinger-


35 posted on 12/06/2005 9:24:47 AM PST by SealSeven (Moving at the speed of dark.... Even "nothing" takes up space.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: GOPGuide

Sensenbrenner is one of the best people in congress. He has done the heavy work while all the rest bitch.


50 posted on 12/06/2005 9:45:11 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion it will give it to you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: GOPGuide; Vicomte13
Here is someone who has pretty good take on why Bush and his cronies reall won't do anything about the border:

Yes, it would work, and there are several reasons why neither political party in the USA will do it.

For the Democrats, it's obvious enough: Hispanics vote Democrat by a 60/40 margin, owing mainly to economic issues and not social morals (Hispanics are mostly Catholic and socially conservative, but pocketbook issues trump abstract social concerns for the poor). There are 11 million illegals in the US. Their children are citizens, and Democrat voters by a 20% margin. American population growth is robust, but driven heavily by Latino immigration and increase. Result: a relentless buildup of Democrat votes.
If there were ever an amnesty, the Democrats could expect to pick up 7 to 8 million voters at a pop, versus 3 or 4 million for the Republicans. And that would make the Democrats a permanent majority.

For the Republicans, it's a bit more difficult to see. There are three pieces driving them.
The first is economic on a business scale: big agriculture and big retail and construction, all three Republican ecomomic strongholds, rely on illegals to keep costs dirt cheap. The bottom line drives it.

The second is that suburban middle-class Republicans (and Democrats) work long hours and need/want domestic help for yardwork and day care. Latinos are generally more available, more malleable and cheaper than poor Americans. Further, there is an unspoken truth that suburban whites are much more willing to trust Latinos and Latinas into their homes and on their properties to do menial work and take care of their kids than they are to trust poor American blacks from the ghettos - the other available menial domestic labor pool. Given the high proportion of suburban and well-to-do people who have personal interaction with Latino/Latina domestics, there is considerable sympathy for them in that class of people - and these are the people who contribute money to political parties and are active in local politics. Take a step down the socio-economic ladder, and less well off working Americans who DON'T have domestic help are much more hard-minded about illegal immigration. But, of course, they're not the folks who man and operate the party apparatus.
Nowhere is the sense of closeness and even "family" made clearer than among the Bushes themselves. There are family members MARRIED TO Latinos. There is knowledge of these issues within the family. To the Bushes, the Latinos are not this foreign, invading race. They're related by blood and history and ties. American elites, Republican and Democrat, are more sympathetic in general to Latino immigration and Latinos in general than the folks further down the ladder. Politically, the suburbanites and elites will talk a good enough game to keep people from positively rebelling and walking out of the party, but they have no will or desire to really enforce any rules or do anything radical. Just give it time, and there will be so many Latinos that they CAN'T be excluded.

The third reason is a political calculation. Republican margins of victory are not huge. They are the majority party, but barely. Democrats get the Latino vote, but Republicans get the votes of third and fourth generation Latinos more and more. Since a very heavy Latino percentage is the future of the United States, actively undertaking policies that would alienate an electorate that Republicans NEED in order to hold onto their majority would not be wise.

So, the Republicans are riding a tiger.

They're not going to build a wall.
They will talk about it enough and take cosmetic public actions sufficient to keep the nativists on board for 2006 and then 2008, but they will never do anything effective. Anything truly effective will mean that the Latinos start voting for the Democrats 80/20 instead of 60/40, and that means a Democrat House, Senate and President Clinton.

58 posted on 12/05/2005 6:21:13 PM EST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)

58 posted on 12/06/2005 9:51:35 AM PST by raybbr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: GOPGuide

THWARTING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! THIS STINKS! BUT I'M NOT SURPRISED.

GOODNIGHT USA!!
GOODNIGHT USA!!
GOODNIGHT USA!!
GOODNIGHT USA!!
GOODNIGHT USA!!
GOODNIGHT USA!!
GOODNIGHT USA!!
GOODNIGHT USA!!


64 posted on 12/06/2005 10:05:28 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: GOPGuide
"They're doing it this way because they know in the House they'll run into a buzz saw and maybe my name's on it," said Tancredo,

I would offer that if this is done, Tancredo will use this issue in his bid for the white house. Pub 'leadership' better think about this action long and hard.
76 posted on 12/06/2005 10:24:57 AM PST by BlueStateDepression
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: GOPGuide
Its time to embrace the horror.

It’s time to start living the good life like our elected representatives.

I will never have to jump out of the spa again to retrieve another beer. Just call out to Maria, my young dark eyed servant with flowing hair and a golden smile.

I will feast on carni asada every night and wake to huevos racheros. My laundry done and my shirts ironed she can then drive me to work in stile.

Never again will I have to search in vain through the rough for my wayward golf balls, and besides, those clubs get heavy and she need to stay in shape.

Mowing my lawn in her teddy, I will be the envy of all my neighbors.

If she gets fat, lazy or uppity, I will just dump her and order a new one.

Think of the possibilities people, all these benefits and the tax payers pick up the tab for any ancillary costs.

Jump on the team and come in for the big win.

Be the first on your block to get a guest worker! Order now, the good one will go fast and you won’t want to be left out.

Viva las muheras de Mexico, viva libertad, viva Los Estados Unidos.

77 posted on 12/06/2005 10:29:37 AM PST by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-26 next last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson