Posted on 12/06/2005 6:28:53 AM PST by GOPGuide
In a bid to bypass critics, the Senate will pass the plan and then merge it with a House bill, observers say.
Washington - Republican leaders will try to pass President Bush's controversial guest-worker proposal without putting it to a direct vote in the House.
Observers say the new GOP strategy that begins today is for the House to deal only with the more politically palatable issue of increasing border security and clamping down on employers. Republican leaders then will let the Senate pass some form of a guest-worker plan.
After that vote, senators and House members will merge the House's border security bill with the Senate's legislation in closed-door meetings.
The House will then vote on the final package, which will include some guest-worker provision, according to a GOP aide familiar with the plan, a Colorado lawmaker and other observers.
The strategy is designed to avoid a divisive debate and contentious vote in the House.
"There is a widespread expectation that that is how it's going to play out," said Tamar Jacoby, immigration expert with The Manhattan Institute, a conservative think tank. "I think it would be hard to pass in the House without the Senate going first."
The legislation that is likely to be the core of the House's immigration bill is expected to be introduced today. Sponsored by Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., it tightens border security and forces employers to verify workers' citizenship. It does not address guest-worker issues.
Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., the biggest opponent of the president's guest-worker
proposal, said the strategy limits his ability to challenge the measure. "They're doing it this way because they know in the House they'll run into a buzz saw and maybe my name's on it," said Tancredo, who heads the 92-member Immigration Reform Caucus in the House.
Sensenbrenner's bill is expected to be voted on within the next two weeks. That allows House members to visit their districts for the Christmas break and say that they passed immigration reform, Tancredo and Jacoby said.
But the House members will be aware of the plan to build in a guest-worker program through the conference committee, said Grover Norquist, a Republican strategist who often serves as an informal liaison between Congress and the White House.
"The president's made it clear he wants both (border security and a guest-worker program)," Norquist said.
Will do. The sad part Dane is that many of us are so feed up with the spending, the open border/cheap labor policy, free trade that we do not see that much a difference any more. Why bother.
Oh, and don't bother pretending that you are anything but a Statist, and a Traitor to America with Pom-Poms provided by your fellow traitorous sell-outs at the R(I)N(O)C!
You also, IMO, should read reply #40 of this thread.
THWARTING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! THIS STINKS! BUT I'M NOT SURPRISED.
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Don't thank itzlzha, all the credit and thanks should go to George Bush.
In fact, the entire Democrat party owes their thanks to Bush for pushing conservatives away from the Republican party. The only people left in that party will be the high dollar supporters and unfortunately, they may have the money but they won't have the votes.
George thinks we the people are stupid enough to fall for the crap he's shoveling down our throats. He will find out we the people are tired of it and will have no more of it.
I'm not complaining about it, I just hope for you not to get your hopes up with GWB. I am actually glad he is a lame duck. Back in February 2005, he sealed his coffin when he pulled out this shamnesty again.
He has only himself to blame. In fact, I can probably damn well guaranty you that if Clinton knew 60% of the people were in favor of something like a wall, he would have went for it if Dick Morris told him to.
That is it. I have passed the point where the arguement of if you do not vote for so in so the other guy will win. When you vote the lessor of two evils, you still are stuck with evil.
This is a great thread. All the "true conservatives" are outing themselves with the use of nancy pelosi rhetoric.
That's what gets me. Does he really think we are that stupid not to see through this nonsense????
You must have stock in KY.
This is a great thread. All the true bushbots are outing themselves with the use of Jim Jones like rhetoric.
What is the preferred policy for an illegal immigrant who has a job and his own health care?
Would the preference be that he be picked up, taken to the border, have it be determined that he has a skill and a job such that he is a personage who qualifies to immigrate legally and then allow him in? I suppose this would help Greyhound as he pays his fare back to his job, but does this really make sense?
Wouldn't it make better sense for such a person to have paperwork to fill out, maybe a few fees to pay and have him keep showing up for work?
Or is it more efficient and favorable for Social Security tax receipts for him to be deported, the employer shut down and all the business' assets sold at auction?
LOL! Go ahead and drink the nancy pelosi kool-aid for all I care, no one is stopping you.
Hope is a wasted word, there is no power in hope, power only comes from goals, commitment and action that accomplishes those goals.
Expectation is the corpse of
a possibility that has died.
I have been predicting this underhanded approach to shamnesty for some weeks now on numerous threads. The only way this happens is if the Republicans join with the Democrats on this issue. I don't think it can pass in the House without a lot of Democrats voting for it because it will be opposed by most conservative Republicans.
I don't think the Democrats will get on board with the shamnesty unless it includes a path to citizenship. It will then be a blatant amnesty. It will be interesting to watch President Bush backpeddle on his tough words about amnesty that were in his speech a few days ago where he all but promised a veto on rewarding illegals. But backpeddle he will because shamnesty is what he has wanted all along.
It’s time to start living the good life like our elected representatives.
I will never have to jump out of the spa again to retrieve another beer. Just call out to Maria, my young dark eyed servant with flowing hair and a golden smile.
I will feast on carni asada every night and wake to huevos racheros. My laundry done and my shirts ironed she can then drive me to work in stile.
Never again will I have to search in vain through the rough for my wayward golf balls, and besides, those clubs get heavy and she need to stay in shape.
Mowing my lawn in her teddy, I will be the envy of all my neighbors.
If she gets fat, lazy or uppity, I will just dump her and order a new one.
Think of the possibilities people, all these benefits and the tax payers pick up the tab for any ancillary costs.
Jump on the team and come in for the big win.
Be the first on your block to get a guest worker! Order now, the good one will go fast and you won’t want to be left out.
Viva las muheras de Mexico, viva libertad, viva Los Estados Unidos.
Wouldn't it make better sense for such a person to have paperwork to fill out, maybe a few fees to pay and have him keep showing up for work?
No. I take is you are assuming all illegal immigrants are from Mexico since you said to take them back to the border? Why do you assume that, the answer is the overwhelming majority are coming through our southern border.
So I will ask you a question, why, when people from all over the world desperately want to come to America, why should only one country be allowed to not just immigrate but completely invade America? There are many quality and educated people all over the world, we should take legal immigrants those who love America enough to wait their turn (not butt in front of all the rest), learn the language, pay the taxes, etc. Doesn't it really tick you off when you are waiting in line and someone jumps not only in front of you but goes straight to the front of the line?
Would the preference be that he be picked up, taken to the border, have it be determined that he has a skill and a job such that he is a personage who qualifies to immigrate legally and then allow him in? I suppose this would help Greyhound as he pays his fare back to his job, but does this really make sense? Wouldn't it make better sense for such a person to have paperwork to fill out, maybe a few fees to pay and have him keep showing up for work?
No. I take is you are assuming all illegal immigrants are from Mexico since you said to take them back to the border? Why do you assume that, the answer is the overwhelming majority are coming through our southern border.
So I will ask you a question, why, when people from all over the world desperately want to come to America, why should only one country be allowed to not just immigrate but completely invade America? There are many quality and educated people all over the world, we should take legal immigrants those who love America enough to wait their turn (not butt in front of all the rest), learn the language, pay the taxes, etc. Doesn't it really tick you off when you are waiting in line and someone jumps not only in front of you but goes straight to the front of the line?
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