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Sweden's rising Muslim tide
Christian Science Monitor ^ | December 06, 2005 | James Brandon

Posted on 12/06/2005 6:13:42 AM PST by Mount Athos

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1 posted on 12/06/2005 6:13:42 AM PST by Mount Athos
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Malmo, which has one of the highest percentage of Muslims of any western European city,

How nice, a Little Mecca right in the heart of Scandinavia. I think the Swedes will regret this before too long.

2 posted on 12/06/2005 6:16:23 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Mount Athos

It's simple Sweden. Convert or die. What's the problem?


3 posted on 12/06/2005 6:16:37 AM PST by Ron in Acreage (Liberal Democrats-Party before country)
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Ping to the Swedish Ping List.
4 posted on 12/06/2005 6:18:28 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Swedish Ping List master)
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To: Rummyfan

That is going to jump up and bite them sooner than they think.


5 posted on 12/06/2005 6:20:59 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Charles Henrickson

BTW, you'll have to remove the cross from that flag.


6 posted on 12/06/2005 6:21:16 AM PST by blam
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To: Mount Athos

Muslims will always be discontented as long as an infidel lives. Its in their book.


7 posted on 12/06/2005 6:21:42 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Mount Athos

More:

http://www.lauramansfield.com/j/112905_sweden2.asp

29 November, 2005: Stockholm Mosques: selling cassettes with Statue of Liberty in burning American flag, calling for a genocidal jihad against Jews; Imams saying one thing in Swedish and another in Arabic


by Laura Mansfield


It will probably come as no surprise to Iraqi-born Swedish journalist Salam Karam that a Stockholm mosque is selling audio cassettes calling for a Holy War against Jews. Swedish Radio News reports that one of the cassettes shows a picture of the Statue of Liberty wrapped in a burning American flag.



According to the report, a spokesman for the mosque blamed volunteers for stocking the mosque bookstore with the cassettes. (Sales of material promoting genocide are against the law in Sweden.)



But Salam Karam has had much the same experience that I did. He started investigating the mosque in Medborgarplatsen Square in Stockholm. His goal: to compare the Imam's speeches in Arabic with the interpreters Swedish translations.



He found that violent tirades against the United States and other Western countries were never translated.



His report cites the following example:



“America rapes Islam,” the Imam roars in Arabic from the platform



“We condemn USA:s torture of Iraqi prisoners” says the translator



Another example cited by Salam is the following:



Friday May 14, when SvD visited the mosque, the Imam was talking about the torture pictures of Iraqi prisoners in the Abu Ghraib prison. Hassan Mousa speaks formal, classical Arabic and roars into the microphone.



“What's wrong with you grandchildren of Mohammed? How long will you endure this humiliation of Muslims without reacting? American and British soldiers, grandchildren of Hitler, are torturing Muslims in Iraq.”



The words sink like a carpet bombing over the hall. Everybody feels them. Many have tears in their eyes. Heads are sunk and eyes are lowered onto the the blue coloured soft carpet.



Minutes later the Swedish translation of the speech is read by an interpreter. In Swedish, the American torture of Iraqi prisoners is condemned, but at the same time the translator emphasizes earlier good works for Muslims done by the US, among others in Bosnia. Not a word on how America is raping Islam, is the enemy of Islam and wants Muslims to be humiliated and under submission.





According to Salam, the Imam denies that the mosque spreads double messages. The Imam blames the Swedish language for the differences:



“It just happened. Arabic is a much richer language than Swedish. It's impossible to translate everything. I usually improvise as I speak as well and say things that aren't in the translation.”



Another example cited by Salam follows:



Quote from the Imam's sermon in Arabic:



“How long will you sit with your arms crossed and watch as the enemies of Islam imprisons your brothers and sisters, torture them, dishonour and kill them? Have we as Muslims sunk so low that we allow American soldiers to rape us and piss on us? Haven't you understood that America doesn't want what is best for the Muslims? Haven't you understood that the only thing America wants is the humiliation of Muslims? Haven't you understood that America wants that the grandchildren of the Prophet submit to Bush.

America will pay the price for all martyrs who have died in Palestine. There are those who are spreading lies in the media, saying that we in the mosque don't think that the former Hamas Leader, Sheik Ahmad Yassin, is a martyr, He is certainly a martyr and the martyr of martyrs. I want everybody in Sweden to know that.”



Quote from the interpreter's Swedish translation of the Imam's sermon:



“We condemn America's torture of Iraqi prisoners. The UN:s treaties forbid torture. We want the Americans who are responsible to brought before the court. America has committed inhuman acts. But at the same time we want to remind Muslims to not judge all Americans alike... Think about all American parents who sent their children to Bosnia in order to help Muslims there.”





How big of a problem is jihad in Sweden?



The infamous Jihadi Kids video, released on the internet in the summer of 2004 showing children reenacting the beheading of American hostage Nick Berg, originated on a Swedish website.



This weekend, a video was released on the internet from Sweden features a man claiming to represent a Swedish group loyal to Al Qaeda terrorist Abu Mus'ab al Zarqawi. The man identifies himself as a member of the Swedish Branch of the Tawhid wa Jihad group. In the video, the man sits in front of a poster with the word Allah featured prominently. A Qu'ran sits beside him, along with two items that appear to be shells which are wired to a third device, presumably a detonator. (See related article at http://www.lauramansfield.com/j/112605_sweden.asp)



It’s clear that Sweden, like most other western countries, has a serious problem with Islamic radicals.



Houston, we have a problem!



And it’s not just in the mosques of Sweden. It’s happening in the mosques of the United states and throughout the world.


8 posted on 12/06/2005 6:23:49 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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9 posted on 12/06/2005 6:24:07 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Rummyfan
I think the Swedes will regret this before too long.

Yep, they're like cockroaches.

10 posted on 12/06/2005 6:24:58 AM PST by csvset
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"But while the mosque has been a target for attacks since its founding, there is increasing evidence that Islamic militants are gaining a foothold in Sweden by successfully exploiting racial tensions and Muslim anger over economic underachievement, and ghettoization."

No wonder the muslim immigrants are gnashing their teeth. They have to live in a ghetto surrounded by muslims. I'd be pissed too.


11 posted on 12/06/2005 6:25:27 AM PST by Frank T
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To: sgtbono2002

From the spiraling number of muslim dead from the global jihaad, I think they have a problem with each other too, not just with infidels.


12 posted on 12/06/2005 6:26:33 AM PST by Frank T
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While moderate Muslims may disown extremists and bar them from mosques, they do little to challenge extremist ideologies

I don't know how you refute so-called extremist ideologies when the so-called extremist's can point to the Koran for justification.

As a non Muslim (Infidel)after having read the Koran, I believe the so-called extremists have the correct interpretation, and the moderates are more interested in getting along in this world, than seeking eternal salvation with Allah, by getting infidel blood on their hands. - Tom

13 posted on 12/06/2005 6:27:13 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Capt. Tom

There are only three kinds of Muslims:

1) Murderous jihadists
2) Enablers of murderous jihadists
3) Lapsed Muslims

I pray for the day when only the third kind will exist.


14 posted on 12/06/2005 6:30:09 AM PST by Maceman (Fake but accurate -- and now double-sourced)
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To: Mount Athos
"... a rapidly expanding and often always discontented Muslim population. "

There I fixed it.
15 posted on 12/06/2005 6:34:40 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Mount Athos
And... a disturbing amount of Muslim immigrant rapes of native Scandinavian women But... but... cheap labor... um... diversity... um... tolerance!
16 posted on 12/06/2005 6:37:42 AM PST by ArcadeQuarters
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To: Mount Athos

Pacifist may not be a strong enough word to describe Swedish culture. They are not only inactive, but active promoting inactivity, if that makes sense.


17 posted on 12/06/2005 6:44:10 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: csvset
No offense to cockroaches, I assume.....

The fact is that the muslums are outbreeding the Swedes...and Norewigens, and French....hell, just about everyone. Couple that with abortion on demand within western civilization, and you are faced with a grim and grimy situation....living in the 6th century dirt...with your women walking around mutiltated, ignorant and covered with a dirty tent.

If Ben Laden and Zarqui's goal was world wide mohammadism, all they would have to do is back off and just let it happen....but they are such arrogant lunitics they want to see it happen themselves and take the credit for it.

18 posted on 12/06/2005 7:01:36 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Islam, liberalism and abortions are terminal..)
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To: School of Rational Thought

Gustavus Adolphus and Charles XII must be rolling over in their graves.


19 posted on 12/06/2005 7:29:09 AM PST by happyathome
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To: blam
BTW, you'll have to remove the cross from that flag.

It's sad. Sweden HAD a strong Christian history. But the stupid Swedes have surrendered--willingly--their wonderful heritage, in exchange for a thoroughly secularized mess of pottage. My devout Lutheran Swedish grandparents are spinning in their graves.

20 posted on 12/06/2005 7:56:53 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Swedish-American Lutheran pastor)
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