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Complete Victory--Bush Adamant, Democrats In Disarray
Daily News Record ^ | 2005-12-05

Posted on 12/05/2005 11:16:55 AM PST by Ooh-Ah

So much for a leader sup-posedly “on the ropes.” Firing back at his critics, President Bush enjoyed a banner day Wednesday, one of his best in some time. Not only did the White House release a 35-page booklet titled “National Strategy for Victory in Iraq,” theoretically (at least) quieting some of the more vocal naysayers who continually maintain no such plan exists, but he also delivered a rousing speech at the U.S. Naval Academy.

The rhetoric of this address was hardly unfamiliar, but it was welcome nonetheless, as it showed a president willing to aggressively defend and pursue positions that have been vilified, to the point of scorn, this entire fall season. Once again, he emphasized that nothing less than “complete victory” will suffice.

“Some are calling for a deadline for withdrawal,” Mr. Bush said. “Setting an artificial deadline to withdraw would send a message across the world that America is a weak and unreliable ally.

“Setting an artificial deadline to withdraw would send a signal to our enemies — that if they wait long enough, Amer-ica will cut and run and abandon its friends. Setting an artificial deadline to withdraw would vindicate the terrorists’ tactics of beheadings and suicide bombings and mass murder — and invite new attacks on America.”

This ringing reiteration that America remains at war prompted a disjointed, incho-ate response from Mr. Bush’s Democratic foes. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, react-ing but hardly leading, endorsed Rep. John Murtha’s call for immediate withdrawal, to be accomplished over a six-month period. Interestingly, when Mr. Murtha, a decorated Vietnam veteran from Penn-sylvania, initially made this recommendation two weeks ago, Mrs. Pelosi and 402 other Democrats (including Mr. Murtha himself) voted against immediate withdrawal when Republicans pressed the ques-tion on the House floor. Interesting as well, Mrs. Pelosi has not formalized this endorsement as a policy initiative for her Democratic caucus, instead leaving it up to individual members whether or not to follow her lead.

The minority leader has said that “a majority of our caucus clearly supports Mr. Murtha,” but provides no indication as to what, if anything, has changed, since that 403-3 vote in mid-November. That Mrs. Pelosi’s position does not boast the backing she maintains is suggested by the outright opposition of the House’s No. 2 Democrat, Steny Hoyer of Maryland. Echoing the sentiments of Sen. Joe Lieberman earlier this week, Mr. Hoyer has said that “a precipitous withdrawal of American troops in Iraq could lead to disaster, spawning a civil war, fostering a haven for terrorists, and damaging our nation’s security and credibility.”

On the Senate side, the re-sponse was, on the whole, decidedly more fluid, even tentative, with many Democ-rats — including Hillary Clinton and even John Kerry and Ted Kennedy — opposing Mr. Murtha but linking troop withdrawal to the outcome of this month’s parliamentary elections.

What this demonstrates to us is that the Democratic approach to the issue is now “every man for himself.” No unanimity exists. Republicans, on the other hand, remain solidly united against with-drawal.

What a remarkable reversal of political fortunes this represents. Democrats now find themselves “between Iraq and a hard place.”


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; democrats; iraq; victorystrategy
What a remarkable reversal of political fortunes this represents. Democrats now find themselves “between Iraq and a hard place.”

1 posted on 12/05/2005 11:16:57 AM PST by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah

I've noticed the DUmmies haven't been that happy lately. Not since their high point of Hurricane Katrina. Must be the low gas prices.


2 posted on 12/05/2005 11:18:39 AM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Ooh-Ah
The Demokratz are having withdrawal pains........

There is a substantial penalty for early withdrawal........

3 posted on 12/05/2005 11:28:07 AM PST by Red Badger (Dan rather didn't say "Courage", he said "Couric"..................)
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To: Democratshavenobrains
For what it is worth...Latest Rasmussen poll says BUSH has a %48 approval rating and it suggests it is due to better Iraq news and the economy is good.
4 posted on 12/05/2005 11:29:35 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: frogjerk
Gas prices are down, thus poll numbers are up. That is the main reason. When you ask someone how his "finances" are, they always drag gas prices into it. Dudden matter they just paid $45,000 for a vehicle that after 2 months is now worth about $20,000 on trade value, thus losing about $25,000, it is those $2.25 gas prices that bother them. Not the $350 bucks for "stuff" at Wal Mart or the Gap. It is those $2.25 gas prices that has him down. It is always gas prices. I heard a fellow employee say recently that he got a raise, but it won't help much, "with gas prices so high."
5 posted on 12/05/2005 11:35:18 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I have no faith in any politician or political party any more. They all lie for their agendas.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

I think this is just the beginning. There is a lag effect with public opnion and polls. Even CNN is running the occasional "good news from Iraq" story now.

Pelosi has made a huge error jumping on the "Murthans for Defeat" bandwagon. She did it to shore up the base, but she will look stupid after the December 15 election. Come to think of it, she always looks stupid, but that's another matter...


6 posted on 12/05/2005 11:36:56 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Question for Socialists: Why are others bound to do for you what you won't do for yourself?)
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To: RetiredArmy

I think everybody makes the connection between higher energy costs and higher costs for all of the things they consume which require transport or shipping.


7 posted on 12/05/2005 11:38:11 AM PST by jayef
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To: Ooh-Ah
If the MSM would start printing the truth and knock of the opinions his numbers would skyrocket. As it is the numbers are going the right direction, DeLay (cleared) Libby (cleared) both IF they go to trial, gas prices down, troop with-drawl starts, Iraq takes over more and more, and then Midterm elections ---- sweet.
8 posted on 12/05/2005 11:54:27 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: Ooh-Ah

C. Rice #44--Mrs. Clinton has to be a little tense...hehehe


9 posted on 12/05/2005 11:54:29 AM PST by Tazzer (Christians! Return to snake-handling!!)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Agreed. It was interesting how a lot of the Democrats were suddenly positive about the War (after Bush's speech).

It was as if they realized that they were "way out on a limb" and were looking for any excuse to move back towards the middle. Maybe they realized that if they continued to push the issue, that it would start to hurt them instead of help.
10 posted on 12/05/2005 12:04:14 PM PST by dhs12345 (w)
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To: Ooh-Ah
What this demonstrates to us is that the Democratic approach to the issue is now “every man for himself.” No unanimity exists. Republicans, on the other hand, remain solidly united against with-drawal.

Well, the President remains steadfast. Some Republicans remain steadfast. WE remain staedfast. So, add these factors together, and the rest that may be weak kneed are kept in line. Especially when we give them hell over things like the Warner resolution. The biggest blessing the Republican Party has is a unified base that is pro-America and keeps them in line on this issue and a President that will not buckle. If left to thir own devices they'd capitulate as folks did in 'nam to the peaceniks.

The Dem party, however, is beholden to the peaceniks. Their fault, they made the little monsters. Some were even apart of them in their youth. They are split because their base is split. A little over half anti-American peaceniks. The little under half are the remnants of it's FDR/Kennedy/Scoop Jackson days. Nancy can vote to withdraw in san Fran. red state/district Dems cannot do so with impunity and even swing districts come in play, especially military heavy districts.

I love saying I "Told ya so" to the Dems.

This is our issue, we're right on this issue, and all we have to do is fight back and we win. They cannot defeat this President. Only this President and WE, his base, have that power.

11 posted on 12/05/2005 12:25:53 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: Ooh-Ah
After 5 full years of GWB the 'rats still misunderestimate the President. The administration's counter offensive is long overdue but if they keep it up the surrender party is in for a rocky new year.

Even with the MSM campaigning against our country 24/7/365 the truth is still a very difficult obstacle to overcome.

12 posted on 12/05/2005 2:28:39 PM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

GO "W" GO!!

Sock it to 'em!!!

The democRATS are in total disarray. They are imploding and exploding. Grab a beer and some popcorn and enjoy the show!!


13 posted on 12/05/2005 10:02:15 PM PST by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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