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why is ACLU hated among most Americans?

Posted on 12/04/2005 6:22:13 AM PST by Khashayar

It has been my question since I became a member on FR.

Why do conservatives in the US hate/disagree with/dislike the ACLU

Are they not a group to protect civil liberties of the American society?

I mean the very values that America's founding fathers dreamed of.

Any how, it is amazing for me why most people in the states disagree with whatever ACLU does.

Thanks for attention!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aclu; civilliberties; communist; culturewars; enemywithin; freedom; progressives; secularism; socialist; society; us
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To: Khashayar
Read:

The ACLU vs America

You won't believe your eyes.

61 posted on 12/04/2005 7:03:43 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Khashayar

The idea that the ACLU somehow protects civil liberties is flat out wrong.

Not once has the ACLU taken up a single issue in favor of the second amendment.

Instead of standing up for Freedom of Religion, the ACLU has done everything possible; including attempts to bankrupt cities/towns, to prevent that very freedom from being expressed.

NAMBLA - no more needs to be said.

It was the ACLU that pitched a fit when after September 11, the suggestion was made to profile people who matched the description of the 18 highjackers of that day. Instead, we have Grandma being stripped searched at airports.


62 posted on 12/04/2005 7:04:52 AM PST by Brytani (Democrats - destroying America since 1868)
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I think most Americans have never heard of the American Communist Liars Union. Of those who are paying attention, i'd say most hate them but you'd be amazed from my conservations how few people know what the ACLU is. Not surprising I guess in a country where half the people vote.


63 posted on 12/04/2005 7:05:05 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: Khashayar
The ACLU could better be rendered the "Anti-Christian Litigation Union."

For one thing, they constantly harass everything Christian, under the false premise of "separation of church and state," while forcing, through the courts, things like islam and immorality upon us every time they can.

They cannot be said to protect the civil liberties of American society.

64 posted on 12/04/2005 7:05:28 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: Khashayar
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65 posted on 12/04/2005 7:08:20 AM PST by apackof2 (You can stand me up at the gates of hell, but I won’t back down)
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To: Khashayar
Sometimes the ACLU does take on cases for a noble cause. They also do many low-profile cases that we never hear about. I know several people that were helped by the ACLU free of charge.

BUT, as seen in some of the higher profile cases, they do have an agenda that is opposite to the people on here.
66 posted on 12/04/2005 7:08:57 AM PST by varyouga (We Are...PENN STATE!)
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To: Khashayar

The ACLU are the Mullahs of America.


67 posted on 12/04/2005 7:09:12 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

ohhhhhh


68 posted on 12/04/2005 7:11:07 AM PST by Khashayar (No Banana Allowed!)
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To: apackof2

thnx


69 posted on 12/04/2005 7:11:20 AM PST by Khashayar (No Banana Allowed!)
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To: Khashayar
I will take your question as an honest one and try to answer it speaking for myself only.

The ACLU is very selective in the 'liberties' it chooses to defend. The ACLU has fought to remove all traces of Christianity from not only monuments but even from the names and symbols of places established long ago.

The ACLU rushes to defend perversion and dissent, but could care less when our real liberties are under attack. I would ask you to find one example of the ACLU defending conservatives against attacks by socialists and atheists. Also I have never seen the ACLU take action against holding Islamic prayers and instruction in public schools, even in the same public schools they have evicted Christianity and Judaism from.

Perhaps they once had a noble purpose, but not any more.

70 posted on 12/04/2005 7:13:02 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Khashayar

71 posted on 12/04/2005 7:13:58 AM PST by bmwcyle (Evolution is a myth -- Libertarians just won't evolve into Conservatives.)
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To: Khashayar

Next you'll be wondering why the NAACP only advances the cause of some colored people?

Or why "People for the American Way", aren't for any such thing.

Or why "Americans Coming Together" is such a divisive organization?

Or how "Pro-Abortion" morphed into "Pro-Choice"?

Or how ...


72 posted on 12/04/2005 7:16:02 AM PST by RobFromGa (Polls are for people who can't think for themselves.)
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To: bmwcyle

One picture is worth a thousand words


73 posted on 12/04/2005 7:16:37 AM PST by apackof2 (You can stand me up at the gates of hell, but I won’t back down)
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To: Khashayar

No offense intended, but this is a question I expect to see on the demoncraticunderground.


74 posted on 12/04/2005 7:17:43 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: Bitsy; micho; HelloooClareece; rightwingintelligentsia
So, how do we take them down?

Under the aegis of the ACLU's Foundation---worth some $135 million---any number of financial travesties can be hidden.

The IRS should determine whether the ACLU is properly accounting for all its tax-funded activities, whether it is inflating legal costs, and whether it is using tax dollars for the purposes stated. We need to know whether the ACLU is engaged in Enron-style accounting and spending practices. How did the ACLU accumulate so much money? Because our taxes are used to subsidize these nefarious organization.

In 1976, Congress passed the Civil Rights Attorneys Fee Awards Act, which was designed to encourage private lawyers to take on suits to protect civil and constitutional rights. The law provides that judges can order federal and state governments to pay legal fees to private lawyers who sued the government and won.

The result has been a flood of civil rights cases in federal court. From The New American Feb. 2, 1987 FReepers can silence the ACLU with a bit of activism. We need to insist our Congressmen repeal this abusive law that allows the ACLU to get rich on harassing Christian America. Congress must repeal laws enabling the ACLU's Christian-hating activities. Cut off the ACLU's funds and watch them disappear.

Here's what we can do.

REFERENCE SOURCE FOR ARGUING REPEAL TO CONGRESS Apparently, when Congress contemplated the fee-shifting bill three decades ago, it never conceived that 42 U.S.C. §1988 would be used to secure fees in esoteric battles over the meaning of the establishment clause of the First Amendment.

The statute gives a court "discretion" to award attorneys' fees to the prevailing party in civil rights cases. Study of the legislative history of the statute reveals that Congress intended this statute to apply to civil rights abuses, including certain race and sex discrimination cases, but not to arguments about whether Judge Roy Moore is allowed to display the Ten Commandments in the Alabama courthouse. During the deliberations on the bill, the Senate penned that "in many cases arising under our civil rights laws, the citizen who must sue to enforce the law has little or no money with which to hire a lawyer."[6]

In the recent First Amendment lawsuits filed by the ACLU, the tables are turned. Small school districts and municipalities can either defend lawsuits and risk paying the ACLU's attorneys' fees if they lose, or they can voluntarily submit to the ACLU' view of the Constitution.

Even if lawsuits over the establishment clause somehow fall within 42 U.S.C. §1988, the statute empowers courts with nothing more than "discretion" to award fees.

In these cases, one would expect courts to withhold awarding fees. Since this is not happening, Congress must take immediate action to clarify 42 U.S.C. §1988 to explicitly exclude lawsuits related to the acknowledgement of God.

75 posted on 12/04/2005 7:17:51 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: FreeAtlanta

LMAO!

I thought I can get a better answer among conservatives


76 posted on 12/04/2005 7:19:27 AM PST by Khashayar (No Banana Allowed!)
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To: Khashayar
Here's an ACLU member for you:


77 posted on 12/04/2005 7:21:44 AM PST by quantim (Detroit is the New Orleans of the north, settled by the French and ruined by liberals.)
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To: quantim

ugly! scary!

lol


78 posted on 12/04/2005 7:22:03 AM PST by Khashayar (No Banana Allowed!)
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To: Khashayar
The ACLU has one member on a very important branch of government: Ruth Bader Ginsburg was an ACLU lawyer and strategist and now sits on the Supreme Court.

The right to bear arms is the SECOND of ten amendments to our Constitution, commonly known as the Bill of Rights. Rather than support this critical right, they fight it. They're communists, Marxists, socialists, etc., and hate the US and the Christian foundation that it was built upon.

79 posted on 12/04/2005 7:25:09 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

ditto. dontcha READ? everything they come near turns to stink.


80 posted on 12/04/2005 7:26:41 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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