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When did 'Happy Holidays' become anti-Christian?
Rochester Democrat and Chronicle | December 4, 2005 | Mark Hare

Posted on 12/04/2005 5:24:15 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

The columnist argues that the "dreadful" Iraq war "diminishes the joy of the Christmas season," and that "talk-radio land and the Internet blogosphere," should stop complaining that "Have a nice holiday," or "Happy holidays" or "Enjoy your holiday" are "part of a campaign to take God and Jesus out of Christmas."

He argues that Christians shouldn't be offended and speculates that non-Christians aren't as easily offended if you wish them "Merry Christmas."

However, he also claims that saying "Happy Holidays" is a matter of politeness to non-Christians and as "a courtesy."

Finally, the author insinuates that Christians are responsible for the commercialization of Christmas and concludes it is "far too soon" to be wishing people "Merry Christmas" anyway.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051204/NEWS0201/512040327/1002/NEWS


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: happyholidays; postedtowrongforum
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To: deport

I'm sorry?????


81 posted on 12/04/2005 7:57:10 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Colorado Doug
What you're saying and what I'm saying are not at odds.

I said: Happy Holidays" became un-Christian when it became offensive to the politically correct to use "Merry Christmas" and "Happy Holidays" interchangeably.

Note the emphasis on who is being offended here, and why. Most Americans do use Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas interchangeably. It is only recently that there has been a resurgence of political correctness that insists that "Happy Holidays" be used on the basis that "Merry Christmas" has religious connections. This is an overtly anti-Christian interpretation, because, as you say, most Americans don't have a problem with Christmas being associated with the holiday season that falls between Thanksgiving and New Years, or vice versa.

82 posted on 12/04/2005 7:58:20 AM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: CindyDawg

The majority of the floats in the parade last night, rgardless of who's float it was, is towed by a piece of fire equipment from one of the many Volunteer Fire Departments in the area. There was actually fire companies from 3 states participating last night.


I love living in a rural, non PC area. There is plenty of the typical Santa, reindeer, etc. type lights and decorations everywhere, but the reliigious nature of the season is also extremely well represented, not only by the churches and private sector, but at retailers and by local governments.

At the "entrance" to another town there is a large lighted Nativity and a Mennorah and a Season's Greeting sign.


83 posted on 12/04/2005 8:05:19 AM PST by Gabz
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To: Behind Liberal Lines


84 posted on 12/04/2005 8:09:30 AM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man.)
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To: TexasCajun

festivus tree!


85 posted on 12/04/2005 8:10:26 AM PST by avile
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I'll be the first to say Merry Christmas to this jerk. :)


86 posted on 12/04/2005 8:12:05 AM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: Colorado Doug

". It seems that it became unpopular about the same time that the politically correct bunch thought that we should embrace Ramadan and Eid or Kwanzaa. Anything but Christmas."

Ramadan and Eid may be legitimate but kwanzaa is made up crap.


87 posted on 12/04/2005 8:13:39 AM PST by avile
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

It became offensive when the word "Christmas" achieved the equal dont-say-in-public status of the "f" word.


88 posted on 12/04/2005 8:17:14 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Dustbunny
When the PC (Communist) crowd decided that they must remove Christ from Christmas.

We can get back at them and rename all of the Holidays in a neutral sense. So, here we go: Update Calendar Year Day, Celebrate Future Furniture (Arbor Day), Future Roadkill Day (Groundhog Day), Buy Chocolate Today (Valentines Day), Buy More Chocolate and Color Eggs Day (Easter), Visit a Cemetery Day (Memorial), Go See Fireworks Day (Independence), Celebrate Work by Not Working Day (Labor), Racist Ocean Traveller Day (Columbus), Be a Wiccan for a Day (Halloween), Go Back To The Cemetery Again Day (Veterans), Kill Lots of Birds and Eat Them Day (Thanksgiving), and then continue to redefine Christmas. Ridiculous? Yep. But why not redefine them all... why just Christmas? Good Friday is still called that by most people when asked what the significance is to taking that Friday off work.

89 posted on 12/04/2005 8:24:18 AM PST by Tuxedo (Merry Christmas!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The PC censors are trying to get Christmas out of the language. I am sending back all the "holiday" cards and letting my suppliers know I celebrate Christmas not holiday.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


90 posted on 12/04/2005 8:28:33 AM PST by bray (Merry Christ-x)
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To: sure_fine
tolerance has become a suicide pill

You must like intolerance then. VIVA INTOLERANCE.

91 posted on 12/04/2005 9:05:03 AM PST by staytrue (MOONBAT conservatives are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate)
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To: staytrue

I am out of tolerance for their crap


92 posted on 12/04/2005 9:39:58 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

When "Happy Holidays" started being used as the replacement for those trying to censor the word Christmas from public places.


93 posted on 12/04/2005 9:54:02 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

It's an insult to any religion to verbally euthanize their religious holiday by denying its meaning and relgious basis.

Ironically, this trend only appears on Christmas. You never hear anyone substituting Happy Holiday for Happy Easter.

And I suspect Jews and Muslims would feel uncomfortable if their neighbors wished them a nice Holiday instead of Ramadan or Rosh Hoshana/Yom Kippur.

Labor Day is a holiday. The others are religious observances and the fact that they are celebrated by a work-less day is simply accepting the fact that their religionists will observe them regardless.


94 posted on 12/04/2005 9:58:58 AM PST by wildbill
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To: Blogger

"It has become offensive because Christians are seeing a systematic elimenation of our Savior from the public square and his name is becoming a dirty word that nobody is allowed to say. "

In fact, the ONLY time people can say the name of Christ today is WHEN they are doing so in a dishonorable fashion...
The irony of merchants making most of their yearly income from Christmas shoppers while similtaneously refusing to include the word "Christmas" in their advertisements or forbid employees from saying the word is totally lost on these people...


95 posted on 12/04/2005 10:09:44 AM PST by t2buckeye
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To: evad

Exactly the way to do it. Everytime we receive a "Happy Holiday" from a clerk in a store, we respond with "Merry Christmas".....They usually smile and return the greeting!


96 posted on 12/04/2005 10:11:16 AM PST by t2buckeye
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To: Dustbunny

It is not common knowledge what is meant when "Christmas" is said either (Christ-mass).


97 posted on 12/04/2005 11:16:59 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: deport
I actually have a beautiful nativity scene made in Italy by "Fontanini". It was given to me as a gift from my mother-in-law and I just love it. There are many stores where you can get these beautiful nativity scenes. I just did a web search and found this:
http://www.fontaninistore.com

BTW, Target this year had NO nativity scenes or anything remotely related to the birth of Christ. I don't think I will be handing over any more $$$ to Target now, or at any other time of year!! I refuse to shop at establishments which try to secularize and diminish the true meaning of Christmas. It's a choice which I don't expect everyone to agree with, but it's my form of personal protest. Merry Christmas everyone!
98 posted on 12/04/2005 11:31:22 AM PST by khnyny
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To: Dustbunny

Hubby and I went to Toys-R-Us yesterday to shop for grandaughter. Checking out, I looked up and saw several signs that said, "DONATE HOLIDAY TOYS for the Toys for Tots". Then the cashier asked: "would you like to donate a holiday toy for the Toys for Tots?" I said, "No. If you were collecting Christams Toys I would donate, but I won't donate for a generic holiday. Merry Christmas!"


99 posted on 12/04/2005 11:44:45 AM PST by WVNan
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To: WVNan

Huge ATTA BOY to you both!!


100 posted on 12/04/2005 12:42:54 PM PST by Dustbunny (Main Stream Media -- Making 'Max Headroom' a reality.)
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