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1 posted on 12/03/2005 10:24:57 PM PST by sourcery
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2 posted on 12/03/2005 10:25:19 PM PST by sourcery (Either the Constitution trumps stare decisis, or else the Constitution is a dead letter.)
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BTTT


3 posted on 12/03/2005 10:30:36 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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4 posted on 12/03/2005 10:53:31 PM PST by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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NIST Physicists Coax Six Atoms Into Quantum 'Cat' State

Really, really small kitty ping.

5 posted on 12/04/2005 12:04:04 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: sourcery

This article is full of mistakes.


6 posted on 12/04/2005 2:17:44 AM PST by wotan
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To: sourcery
a real cat’s roughly 1026 atoms

That's either a really small cat or some mighty big atoms.
7 posted on 12/04/2005 2:21:15 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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It's not that the cat IS both alive and dead, it's that we can't know which is true. We can only know the probability of the event being true. Only by actual observtaion is the actual state know and then it becomes one or the other.

from whatis.com:

Here's Schrödinger's (theoretical) experiment: We place a living cat into a steel chamber, along with a device containing a vial of hydrocyanic acid. There is, in the chamber, a very small amount of a radioactive substance. If even a single atom of the substance decays during the test period, a relay mechanism will trip a hammer, which will, in turn, break the vial and kill the cat. The observer cannot know whether or not an atom of the substance has decayed, and consequently, cannot know whether the vial has been broken, the hydrocyanic acid released, and the cat killed. Since we cannot know, the cat is both dead and alive according to quantum law, in a superposition of states. It is only when we break open the box and learn the condition of the cat that the superposition is lost, and the cat becomes one or the other (dead or alive). This situation is sometimes called quantum indeterminacy or the observer's paradox: the observation or measurement itself affects an outcome, so that it can never be known what the outcome would have been if it were not observed.

12 posted on 12/04/2005 3:46:40 AM PST by RobFromGa (Polls are for people who can't think for themselves.)
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The fog comes
on little cat feet.

It sits looking
over harbor and city
on silent haunches
and then moves on.

- Carl Sandburg


15 posted on 12/04/2005 7:07:39 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Wednesday, November 2, 2005.)
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Quantum cat-states ping.
18 posted on 12/04/2005 7:31:31 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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"..........The ability to exist in two states at once is another peculiar property of quantum physics known as “superposition.”..........."

It always amazes me how beautiful and predictive the fruits of Western 'Scientific' inquiry are and in addition, how it all weaves together into a single unbroken tapestry as part of our civilization.

However, there are those that believe.............

1) There is no such thing as an atom.
2) The Earth is flat.
3) Evolution is false.

19 posted on 12/04/2005 7:43:12 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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In addition, cat states are more sensitive to disturbance than other types of superpositions, a potentially useful feature in certain forms of quantum encryption, a new method for protecting information by making virtually all eavesdropping detectable.

This works in a cool way. You basically send your message via pulses of cat-state particles of which each is entangled with a particle you are NOT sending. If the cat-state of your stay-at-home particles collapses too soon, some eavesdropper has sensed your message along the way.

21 posted on 12/04/2005 8:26:44 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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I'm thinking that should be "10^26 atoms"
otherwise, interesting indeed.
I agree with Einstein: entanglement IS spooky.
I cannot help but wonder whether entanglement might lead to instantaneous communication over practically infinite distances.
corollary: if it can, then I cannot help but think that perhaps the SETI folks have been barking up a very wrong tree in listening for alien radio comsig.


23 posted on 12/04/2005 8:34:24 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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Regarding the 1026 issue:

Here is the original press release. You can see that the "26" is superscripted. The "1026" was a copy-and-paste job from the original, nothing more.

26 posted on 12/04/2005 9:06:47 AM PST by Physicist
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The name was coined in a famous 1935 essay in which German physicist Erwin Schrödinger described an extreme theoretical case of being in two states simultaneously, namely a cat that is both dead and alive at the same time.

Schrödinger obviously never drank tequila or he would know an entire human body can enter a cat state on any given morning.

So9

30 posted on 12/04/2005 9:20:49 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: sourcery
does it have anything to do with this?
71 posted on 12/04/2005 10:37:17 AM PST by IonInsights
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To: sourcery

That's some convenient pet cat which only has 1026 atoms.


74 posted on 12/04/2005 10:42:18 AM PST by bvw
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Thank you for posting this interesting article. I am fascinated by quantum physics. I always think the key to understanding it is just out of my range of vision, like an out of focus picture becoming clearer and clearer, can almost see it and then wham it's gone. I think it would be the greatest job in the world to study it! Probably would never go home.


80 posted on 12/04/2005 10:55:01 AM PST by MontanaBeth (Never under estimate the enemy.)
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all that matters is, can this be turned into a cool weapon?


98 posted on 12/04/2005 12:21:25 PM PST by isom35
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"Scientists at the Commerce Department’s National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) have coaxed six atoms into spinning together in two opposite directions at the same time, a so-called Schrödinger “cat” state that obeys the unusual laws of quantum physics."

Outstanding! Poorly described, but outstanding.

102 posted on 12/04/2005 12:33:40 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: sourcery

And this conflicts with the Bible how?


107 posted on 12/04/2005 12:52:51 PM PST by onedoug
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