[DumpsterDiver]

Carlos de Icaza doesn't want a fence, he doesn't like the Minutemen and because our economy is better than theirs, it's our fault Mexicans come here. What to do, what to do?

[Regulator]

Hard to believe that in this day and age, we have the ambassador of a failed Third World hellhole running around our country telling us who should live among us.

Someone should tell him the Spanish version of "butt out, bub".

[cripplecreek]

"There is no place, managing immigration flows between neighbors, for people to pretend to take the law into their own hands,"

Who the hell does this guy think he is dictating law to us? These idiots seem to be deliberately pushing buttons and showing just how arrogant they are. I realize that they commonly tell their own citizens to STFU and take it but Americans won't stand for this crap for long.

[Egon]

"Building walls and fences is not the way to solve problems among neighbors..."

Uh, yeah. It often is. Especially when your neighbors insist on trespassing.

[DumpsterDiver]

ping

[dennisw]

"Building walls and fences is not the way to solve problems among neighbors," said de Icaza, whose two-day visit ended with a demonstration by the Utah Minuteman Project outside the Utah Capitol.  "There is no place, managing immigration flows between neighbors, for people to pretend to take the law into their own hands," said de Icaza.

Mexico isn't our neighbor. They are our enemy

[DTogo]

Remember the Alamo!!

[starbase]

This article is almost a perfect example of the propaganda technique we identified as #12 A One One Punch, wherein one side gets several great lines and the other side gets a lame line.

de Icaza's great lines:

1. "Building walls and fences is not the way to solve problems among neighbors," said de Icaza,"

2. "There is no place, managing immigration flows between neighbors, for people to pretend to take the law into their own hands," said de Icaza.

3. The ambassador emphasized the economic ties between Mexico and Utah, and said Mexico's economy was improving, though not enough to satisfy his countrymen, who are drawn to a U.S. economy that is 15 times larger and acts like "a big magnet," de Icaza said.

4. Utah companies can take advantage of more opportunities for trade, especially those in the software and information technology sector, de Icaza said.

The opposition's lame lines spoken by just a regular citizens:

1. Jerry Owens, of Midway, Utah, said the United States needs to build a fence along the Mexican border.
"My children are going to be competing with illegal aliens for jobs," said Eli Cawley of Salt Lake City.

Notice that he doesn't state "I don't want my children to compete with illegal aliens", or something stronger "I will not tolerate my children having to compete with illegals!!". No, he only meekly states that it will happen.

Other than that there are no more quotations in the story. Please go to our propaganda list by clicking "starbase" below and look at #12. You will be amazed at how this article mirrors our preset definition, even though that definition was written about 5 years ago.

#16 is also related to this article. Please have a look. :-)

[Sonny M]

There is an old saying, which I believe in.

"Good fences make good neighbors".

That said, should Mexico be ashamed of itself over the fact that people would rather risk their lives to leave it to go to a country that doesn't want them there in the first place?

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[no-to-illegals]

perhaps the next time this guy comes calling we should just hand him a jar of vasaline and just bend over......

that would technically give him what he wants.